Lumberjack
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So instead of trying to stop piracy, we want to remove privacy. As much as I dispise the GPL for it's viral properties I think this is great  .
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1 edit | said by Lumberjack  :So instead of trying to stop piracy, we want to remove privacy. As much as I dispise the GPL for it's viral properties I think this is great . Good that it got pulled. Funny an agency promoting non-copyright infringement resorts to copyright infringement 
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evilghost
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Springville, AL | Excellent.
Excellent. The GNU GPL is there for a reason; modify the works of someone else freely but you must provide the source code to those modifications upon request.
I don't have much issue with the MPAA but I do have issue with GPL infringement. |
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bored_in_nh
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| something I never understood
So the record and movie companies say they are losing money from pirated material. How? If someone downloads something without paying for it, isn't that usually because they want that item and don't have the resources to be able to afford it? So if they can't afford it, they won't buy it. Does that count as losing money too? What's the difference between losing money because someone couldn't afford it and downloaded it, and someone who didn't download it or buy it either? OMG I don't listen to hip hop. Those record producers are losing money on me!
What if a friend of one of these pirates listens to the music or sees the movie the pirate has downloaded, and then decides they want to buy it? Hasn't this turned into a profit for the record company or movie prodcer?
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Cudni
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and now to claim damages for the infringement
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It isn't our property, so that makes it okay to steal it. Worked for Sony, so it is good enough for the MPAA.
Both of the **AA's need to figure out that they need a new electronic method of delivery that is easy to use, cost effective for the users, and not tied down to the machine you use to download it.
Yes they can make money from the PSP, DVD, HD-DVD, and Bluray versions, but think how much more you could sell if everyone only had to buy it once. How about personal licensing, something along the lines of Steam. What you buy you can access from anywhere with your user name and password.
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swhx7
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Re: Excellent.
The GPL is commonly thought of as a "copyleft" or some sort of anti-copyright. In reality, however, it relies on copyright law just as much as any conventional licence or infringement action does.
So what has been exposed here is pure hypocrisy. The Hollywood cartel talks about respect for copyright when it makes them money, but just like the pirates they crusade against, they don't want it applied to limit their own behavior.
Remember folks, whenever anyone spouts some rubbish about copyright enforcers being the good guys: corporations are sociopaths, and a cartel of corporations is even worse. They have no principles, only greed. |
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swhx7
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Re: something I never understood
Your reasoning is right on target. They talk about billions in "losses" to piracy, but if they listed amounts on their balance sheets as debits incurred because of non-purchase of their products when potential customers decided against buying, the SEC would put them in jail. Such hypotheticals do not comport with "generally accepted accounting principles". |
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Isn't it kind of funny the riaa and the mpaa keep getting in trouble. I find it absolutely hilarious and ironic that a company supposedly trying to thwart copyright pirates does so on their own accord. great news.
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1 edit | What;'s good for the Goose
Nice to see the MPAA getting a taste of their own
medicine. Ah the irony of it all - infringing the
copyrights of the GNU GPL in order to release a tool
that is supposed to help curb copyright infringement over
p2p networks.
Of course it wouldn't be the first time that the MAFIAA
has done something like this. Remember Captain Copyright,
anyone? Or the Sony/BMG DRM Rootkit, parts of which used
code covered by the very same GNU GPL without providing
the source?
"MPAA don't f*ck with my s*it" - priceless!
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Re: Do as we say...not as we do
That's why I only buy CDs. I can then move the song into a form I can use. They can stick all their "electronic" locked to one machine" crap back up into that dark place it came from.
I also can later "sell" or "give" the used CD to a store/friend and recoup some of my dollars if I tire of the artist or hate the music.
There is no present method of transferring an electronic track from person to person or machine to machine, outside of the physical plastic CD. Much less "sell" the used electronic tracks. So why buy the songs in that format at a quality below what I want. I don't NEED to have every new CD that comes out. Buying the plastic CD gives me the ability to transfer the ownership of the songs to a 2nd party.
I hope the RIAA starves and goes the way of the Dinosaurs (that didn't adapt to changes) in their environment!
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Re: something I never understood
said by bored_in_nh :So the record and movie companies say they are losing money from pirated material. How? If someone downloads something without paying for it, isn't that usually because they want that item and don't have the resources to be able to afford it? So if they can't afford it, they won't buy it. Does that count as losing money too? What's the difference between losing money because someone couldn't afford it and downloaded it, and someone who didn't download it or buy it either? OMG I don't listen to hip hop. Those record producers are losing money on me! What if a friend of one of these pirates listens to the music or sees the movie the pirate has downloaded, and then decides they want to buy it? Hasn't this turned into a profit for the record company or movie prodcer? I agree with you. So if i decide to not pirate something this must somehow make them some money (or not lose money). I want my fair share of that money for everything I choose to not pirate. |
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| how... 'surprising'
i'm hoping a day will come in which the MPAA and RIAA will get it's own personal congressional investigation to how they run themselves and their tactics. i'm sure a lot of people agree that the MPAA and RIAA needs a drastic change, personally i wouldn't mind if they were banished from existance. |
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dadkins
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1 edit | reply to ATMW
Re: Do as we say...not as we do
said by ATMW :
That's why I only buy CDs. I can then move the song into a form I can use. They can stick all their "electronic" locked to one machine" crap back up into that dark place it came from.
I also can later "sell" or "give" the used CD to a store/friend and recoup some of my dollars if I tire of the artist or hate the music.
There is no present method of transferring an electronic track from person to person or machine to machine, outside of the physical plastic CD. Much less "sell" the used electronic tracks. So why buy the songs in that format at a quality below what I want. I don't NEED to have every new CD that comes out. Buying the plastic CD gives me the ability to transfer the ownership of the songs to a 2nd party.
I hope the RIAA starves and goes the way of the Dinosaurs (that didn't adapt to changes) in their environment!
Dino.....
Can't apply that to DVDs or HD DVD/Blu-ray.
Decryption is illegal!
You can only play the item, you cannot back it up to protect your investment from getting damaged! That is illegal!
Damaged to the point of not working? Tough shit! Go buy another copy!
Yeah yeah, *I* can copy them...
EDIT: Typo.
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Extensive and repeated bribery, extortion, willful copyright infringement; .the MPAA is a criminal enterprise if there ever was one.
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Re: Excellent.
i just find humor in the trade group that is all over pirates like flies on shit, goes and violates GPL without second thought. too bad this was software and not some kinda media, he could take the MPAA to the tune of 150k per violation then.
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Re: Send the racketeers to jail
said by DotMac4 :Extensive and repeated bribery, extortion, willful copyright infringement; .the MPAA is a criminal enterprise if there ever was one. Exactly the reason why they and the RIAA together are
commonly called the MAFIAA. La Cosa Nostra they may not
be, but in many ways they act like the real MAFIA.
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Re: Dumb...
said by Lumberjack :So instead of trying to stop piracy, we want to remove privacy. As much as I dispise the GPL for it's viral properties I think this is great . What's to despise? Developer X says "you can redistribute my work as long as you show people what you changed". If you don't like it, don't redistribute his frickin' code. Why is that a bad thing?
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