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Comments on news posted 2007-12-12 09:22:17: It's been well-discussed that Earthlink has put their municipal broadband aspirations on hold as the company deals with its financial headaches. ..

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brianiscool

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Death is near

Goodbye Earthlink you were only good during your dial-up days.



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Corrupt City Government?

Or is Earthlink dying?

From the article:

Three years ago, Street announced that Philadelphia would be the first major U.S. city to have its own network for wireless Internet access , putting the city on the technology map. But the project is nearly a year behind schedule and beset by cost overruns.
Mayor Street is one of the most corrupt big-city mayors in the country. Maybe the payoffs haven't been coming into City Hall fast enough.
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pnh102
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Did They Survive The Trip?

Considering how dangerous the city has become under the outgoing John Street administration, one has to ask if the Earthlink people might have been gunned down on the way to the meeting.
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dslwanter
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Farewell

The only life this company has if ISPs resell their networks to them, and like stated above nexgen networks won't. And If it wasn't for "Bring Your Own Access" with AOL (Is that what's it's still called?) they'd be on the same boat.
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gaforces
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reply to brianiscool

Re: Death is near

said by brianiscool:

Goodbye Earthlink you were only good during your dial-up days.
Yep and only the beginning of those days, after they ate mindspring and others they got too big for thier britches and started to suck.

Years ago I was on AOL and switched to Earthlink, it was great ... at first.
They oversubscribed and thier service went downhill, disconnections, busy dial-up numbers, poor service, etc.
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N3OGH
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Re: Did They Survive The Trip?

I wouldn't bring my laptop into the city anyway.

Having that thing in my hand may slow my draw time, and heaven knows every second counts when going for your gat.

On the streets of Killadelphia.....
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brianiscool

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reply to gaforces

Re: Death is near

My first dial-up account was with Pipeline. Then I went to AOL, Compuserv, Genie, Netcom and Prodigy.


russotto

join:2000-10-05
West Orange, NJ
reply to pnh102

Re: Did They Survive The Trip?

Don't be silly, it's still cop season in Philly, not executive season. That doesn't start until January.



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Thanks for the reminder.

I'm trying to blend in until executive season starts....
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pnh102
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said by russotto:

Don't be silly, it's still cop season in Philly, not executive season.
I thought it was Boy Scout Season.
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gaforces
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Strange contract

They have Earthlink building it, a non-profit called Philadelphia Wireless running it, yet Earthlink is able to re-sell bandwidth to businesses for profit?

Its no doubt they will be late finishing it as its a non-traditional type of network topography for a city, in that its a mesh network which is still developing protocols for 3rd generation service.

Something we must not be hearing about all this and thier "confidential agreements" with other providers.

""While we are sensitive to the city's concern about the future of the project, we are not able to provide complete answers because of confidentiality agreements with other providers that may have an interest in this network and our status as a publicly traded company," the company said in an unsigned statement submitted to the Committee on Technology and Information Services."
»www.philly.com/philly/news/local···371.html

Looks like they are deliberatly stalling the project so it can become insolvent.
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jcpsu86

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reply to pnh102

Re: Did They Survive The Trip?

either that or they are stranded in the Philly airport....that's been known to happen a bit.


jcpsu86

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or maybe they are stranded in the Philly airport. Quick, someone go look in the US Airways terminals.......



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Re: Death is near

»www.philly.com/philly/news/local···371.html

The firm Philadelphia has retained to build a citywide wireless Internet network has spent millions more than its anticipated costs and cannot say when it will complete the project, City Council members were told yesterday.

In fact, EarthLink Inc. representatives didn't show up for a committee hearing on Wireless Philadelphia. The company's retreat from the municipal-wireless business prompted the hearing. But EarthLink made clear by its absence that it did not want to be peppered with questions in public as it rethinks its business strategy. All that money spent for a few thousand people. What a waste!!

EarthLink said it had spent more than $20 million to establish the broadband wireless service, "in excess of the $12 million to $15 million anticipated by the city and EarthLink at the outset of the project."

The network is substantially built, the company said, but neither EarthLink nor city officials could provide a date for when the system would be completed.

Greg Goldman, CEO of the city-created nonprofit Wireless Philadelphia, said EarthLink's network had "several thousand" subscribers so far.
Hardly surprising that a Muni-Wifi project is way over budget and behind schedule. Involve politicians and city government and that is what happens. All that money spent for only a few thousand people. What a waste!!
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russotto

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Re: Did They Survive The Trip?

Boy scouts are open season, no bag limit.



pnh102
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Re: Strange contract

said by gaforces:

They have Earthlink building it, a non-profit called Philadelphia Wireless running it, yet Earthlink is able to re-sell bandwidth to businesses for profit?
This is just business as usual for the Philadelphia city government. I'm surprised the mayor's brother isn't secretly "running" things.

*Cough*Notlim*Cough*
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companyman6

join:2000-11-08
Washington, DC

Mindspring VOIP

I have Earthlink True Voice Phone Service. Up until yesterday I was able to use the "Mindspring" PC to PC and PC to Phone service to place phone calls. Now, no connection is made to the user on the other phone, but it does ring to their number. I know my mic/headset works. The mindspring.net website just re-routes back to the main earthlink page. Tried to get an answer on the customer service "chat" and was told to call the toll free number, which basically refers back to the main Earthlink support.



senatedon

join:2002-03-18
Mechanicsburg, PA

can we all agree now that

Muni WiFi is a disaster and a waste of taxpayer money.

This will be a tough thing for Karl and DSLreports to do, but with some courage...you can do it.

Just say it. Repeat after me...

Muni WiFi is a disaster and a waste of taxpayer money.


jervin123

join:2005-04-14
Philadelphia, PA

Not speed

The network is horrible in most places. I sometimes occur speeds above 700ms-2000ms and sub-dial up speeds on their "high-speed" network



N3OGH
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Re: Did They Survive The Trip?

Shit, now you guys got me double scared.

I was a boy scout, and now I'm a cop.

Looking both ways, and ducking behind cover.

Remember children. If it won't stop a bullet, it's not cover, it's concealment.

Cover- Engine block, giant rock, brick wall.

Concealment- A bush, wooden fence, a car door.

Knowing the difference is half the battle in the city of..er brotherly love.

Fortunately, I don't work there, I'm in the outer burbs, so usually it's lost dogs and domestics. But sometimes, it kicks off...

BTW, what Philly did to the scouts was reprehensible. Here we've got a city that is beset on all sides by the scum and villanry that is the result of fatherless children, and what do they do? Take a way from an organization that provides boys and young men with solid role models.

Life in these United States folks....
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Qumahlin
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Excuse me? Philadelphia being reprehensible? Try they stood up to closed minded homophobic organization. While I am not a homosexual I do believe that the city should not give money towards programs that claim to be for the public, but then blatantly discriminate against certain groups of people.

The boy scouts did it to themselves, the city gave them an option, either stop discriminating, or start paying for the space the city was giving you for next to NOTHING. You can't expect a city to give handouts to you so you can "help the public" when you are in fact discriminating against a sizable portion of the public. You can't use the money from gay taxpayers to underwrite an organization that openly hates gays (they can spin it anyway they want, bottom line is they hate gays)

Say what you want about the shootings and such but to say that philadelphia "Took a way from an organization that provides boys and young men with solid role models." I guess your idea of a good role model is a freeloading homophobe...

As for the topic on hand. EL made tons of promises to the city and once their financial issues hit the fan everything went to shit. It's not even your typically bureaucracy holding things up, its the fact that EL is hemorrhaging and nothing in the foreseeable future is going to change that for them at this point.

Can't blame EL, if they finish the network and keep to their promises, they will be deeper in the hole when they are forced to sell the infrastructure to the lowest bidder



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reply to FFH

Re: Death is near

said by FFH:

Hardly surprising that a Muni-Wifi project is way over budget and behind schedule. Involve politicians and city government and that is what happens. All that money spent for only a few thousand people. What a waste!!
Still a speck of dust compared to the $2.1 billion in incentives Verizon received from Pennsylvania for services that never materialized. Involve politicians, city government and Verizon and that is what happens. All that money spent for NOTHING. What a waste!!


Qumahlin
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Re: Not speed

Which is still faster then you would be getting if the free network didn't exist...



batterup
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Re: Death is near

said by jhboricua:

Still a speck of dust compared to the $2.1 billion in incentives Verizon received from Pennsylvania for services that never materialized.
Source? You don't have one and I call B.S.


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said by batterup:

said by jhboricua:

Still a speck of dust compared to the $2.1 billion in incentives Verizon received from Pennsylvania for services that never materialized.
Source? You don't have one and I call B.S.
Teletruth and their one man campaign against telcos keeps spreading this lie. And the uninformed keep repeating it ad nauseum.
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batterup
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Re: Not speed

said by Qumahlin:

Which is still faster then you would be getting if the free network didn't exist...
Free? There is no free lunch unless you live in your mother's basement.


N3OGH
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Re: Did They Survive The Trip?

Well, you're entitled to your opinion. I respect that.

The government uses my tax money to underwrite plenty of things I don't agree with. And I'm not talking about the war, or social programs, or whatever. All layers of government are rife with it.

The city absolutely has the right to kick them out of the building. I think it stinks, but I'm not saying they don't have the right.

Conversely, the scouts have the right, as a private organization to exclude anyone they wish from membership.

So both organizations are well within their rights.

On the other hand, I won't stop paying my taxes tomorrow if the gay and lesbian association sets up shop in a government owned building, and excludes straight people from being a member of their organization. I see these issues not as black and white, but shades of gray.

Do the Scouts exclude homosexuals? Sure they do. Is that right? I don't think so. I don't think people should go around trumpeting their sexual orientation at the top of their lungs. I don't go around telling everyone I like women. I just am who I am, and I keep it to myself.

Given the totality of the circumstances, and knowing Philly politics, as I'm sure you know them as well, living in West Chester. This was done for the purpose of political grandstanding.

In the end, I think the Scouts do more good than bad. Philadelphia is nothing short of a mess right now, and Street can't exit stage right fast enough. I hope Nutter does a better job. He seems like a pretty decent guy, as far as politicians go.

But, the fact remains that Philly is a city in crisis. Primarily due to the result of fatherless African American boys who fall victim to street life.

If we have an organization that can help some of these boys escape the dead end of life on the streets, even if that program has some flaws, or things we don't agree with, I say we should support that organization.

I'm sure you don't agree, and that's fine. I've said my peace. I have to run, so I wont be back tonight....
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clickie8

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Monroe, MI
reply to FFH

Re: Death is near

Hmmm. He's quiet now.


jervin123

join:2005-04-14
Philadelphia, PA
reply to batterup

Re: Not speed

This network is not a free network, it is commercial and you pay hour, day, 3 day, 7day, monthly or the low income rate.


ebubman

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Re: Did They Survive The Trip?

said by russotto:

Don't be silly, it's still cop season in Philly, not executive season. That doesn't start until January.
not funny dude, not funny at all....