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Comments on news posted 2007-12-14 15:48:46: Users in our forums have been discussing Qwest's "excessive use policy," or "EUP". Like many operators, Qwest will boot any user who consistently consumes more than their "fair share" of bandwidth for a residential connection. ..

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RayW
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1-3 GB a month?

I am a light user and we do about that each month, when we are not getting updates.

A bit anemic in today's world.

Edit: I looked at my stats for the last month, 3 GB metered and 12 GB unmetered up and down (metering by time of day and where to). So 15 GB transfer for me for the last 4 weeks. And no music or movies (and no porn despite some people thinking everyone above 100 KB is doing).

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David
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40,000-80,000 mp3's

That's quite a bit up there. I think I might have now just broke 1,000 songs on my hard drive.

I would be considered small potatoes by those limits.

Indymike

join:2004-12-06
Indianapolis, IN
Windows Updates

Hmmmmmmmm

Windows XP service pack 3 will be out soon (supposedly) and we've got 4 (running) computers in the house. So, with XP SP3 probably at least 300 meg., that will be 1.2Gb, so i'll have reached my limit by just updating my computers?


batterup
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Net neutrality

You want net neutrality you got it. Now pay for it little children; there is no free lunch.


batterup
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reply to Indymike
Re: Windows Updates

said by Indymike See Profile :

Hmmmmmmmm

Windows XP service pack 3 will be out soon (supposedly) and we've got 4 (running) computers in the house. So, with XP SP3 probably at least 300 meg., that will be 1.2Gb, so i'll have reached my limit by just updating my computers?
Download it once and burn it to DVD.


ironweasel
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reply to RayW
Re: 1-3 GB a month?

said by RayW See Profile :

I am a light user and we do about that each month, when we are not getting updates.

A bit anemic in today's world.
I don't read it as limiting you to 1GB - 3GB, Qwest is just saying that the "average" user consumes that much.

40,000 mp3's @ 3MB / file = roughly 120GB. So if you start hitting 100GB of data transfer a month, THEN you might be considered "excessive".

So far this month, as of this post, I have transferred a total of 9.37GB (7.66GB down, 1.71GB up), as an example.
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EDIT: Meant to post this under IndyMike.


Pashune
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Hmm.

In the past, I would consume a little over 40 gb of data on a 1.5 mbit DSL line every month from Bellsouth. Right now, not so much, but I still download around 6-7 gb each month atleast. :P
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Alakar
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15+ million unique e-mails each month

Sounds like someone has a infected computer that is part of a botnet.


r81984
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Unlimited?

I did not know you could excessively use UNLIMITED service????
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MrMoody
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Yugo

said by Qwest :
You don't buy a Yugo and then try to drive it like a Porsche.
Sure I do! In fact I would drive the Yugo a lot closer to its limits a much greater amount of the time than I would the Porsche.
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MxxCon

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reply to Indymike
Re: Windows Updates

said by Indymike See Profile :

So, with XP SP3 probably at least 300 meg., that will be 1.2Gb, so i'll have reached my limit by just updating my computers?
let me repeat it a few times since you seem to have problem reading english and what the article says
1.2Gb IS NOT A LIMIT
1.2Gb IS NOT A LIMIT
1.2Gb IS NOT A LIMIT
1.2Gb IS NOT A LIMIT
1.2Gb IS NOT A LIMIT
1.2Gb IS NOT A LIMIT
1.2Gb IS NOT A LIMIT
1.2Gb IS NOT A LIMIT
1.2Gb IS NOT A LIMIT
it's a number they pulled out of their asses.
the article says "1-3 Gigabytes per month". it's an AVERAGE. by definition of AVERAGE there are people who transfer more and transfer less. and their average has a range of being 3x bigger than the lower limit.
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sapo
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reply to MrMoody
Re: Yugo

said by MrMoody See Profile :

said by Qwest :
You don't buy a Yugo and then try to drive it like a Porsche.
Sure I do! In fact I would drive the Yugo a lot closer to its limits a much greater amount of the time than I would the Porsche.
Yep, everyone generally abuses their beater car more. Analogy = fail.
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alex4life
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Caps

What gets me about this is the "download too much and we cancel your service" attitude. My ISP has a 60 gig/month cap, but when you go over, they simply charge you for it. Want to download lots and lots of stuff? Pay for it. Problem solved. Granted 60 is a bit low, I would have set it at 100.
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morbo
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reply to batterup
Re: Net neutrality

someone needs a hug. or a friend?

bruzr
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Essex Junction, VT

Excessive use

3,000 30-minute shows would be 90,000 minutes per month - and there's only 43,000 to 44,000 minutes in a month, 24/7. I expect the other examples would also represent the same kind of overuse.

It would really take some serious effort, and massive storage, to handle that kind of downloading. When would anyone have time to actually view the videos or movies, or listen to the mp3s? (I don't even want to think about replying to 15 million email threads... )
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reply to ironweasel
Re: 1-3 GB a month?

Yeah, most of my MP3s are in the 3.5-4mb range, so it sounds like their limit is about 150GB.

I hate when companies try to dumb-down/overstate bandwidth limits by putting it in "big number" terms like that. Just tell us what you mean in GBs, please! Maybe someone should go do 299,999 huge RAW-image mode format "photo downloads" and claim that they should be below their stated "excessive use" threshold.

bigskank

join:2002-06-07
Norman, OK

reply to batterup
Re: Net neutrality

What does net neutrality have to do with any of this? How does saying an ISP cannot degrade traffic in some instances factor into bandwidth caps? If I used bittorrent 24/7 (as many people do), and bittorrent is the lowest priority on the network, I would still easily be able to exceed the bandwidth cap.

For example, I have a 10 Megabit cable connection. Let's say bittorrent is degraded so I can't pull more than 50 kilobytes (not kilobits) per second). That is roughly 5% of my downstream capacity, and probably a reasonable number for throttling in a non-net neutral world.

So, 50 Kbytes/s x 60 seconds/min x 60 min/hr x 24 hrs/day x 30 days/month = 129,600,000 kilobytes/mo = 129,600 Megabytes/mo = 129.6 Gigbytes/month. Thus, I would still violate the policy presuming that 100GB per month is the cutoff where the naughty "little children" will have there connection dropped. With the degradation in network performance for certain services that the pushers of ending net-neutrality want, there would still be easy violations of the AUP of the ISP.


SRFireside

join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX

reply to r81984
Re: Unlimited?

Considering what seems to be defined as the limits I would pretty much say anybody going that far on their bandwidth usage is definitely abusing the "unlimited" offering. You should know by now there is no such thing as absolute unlimited in any market. Try emptying out the all you can eat buffet inventory and see if they let you. Try sending and receiving 5,000,000 text messages and see what Sprint has to say. Unlimited within reason is a good thing. Get scrappy about the companies who say unlimited, but put REAL limits on service.


SRFireside

join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
reply to Alakar
Re: 15+ million unique e-mails each month

Or a spammer with several machines plugged into his/her broadband service (nobody said said spammer was smart).


r81984
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reply to SRFireside
Re: Unlimited?

Unlimited with limits is not unlimited or is my vocabulary lacking.
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