inteller
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join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
| held hostage by the carriers
Some of Palm's problems are poor management. However ATT and Verizon make Palm bleed red from all the hoops they have to jump through.
Case in point. The Treo 750 WM6 upgrade. This should have been out months ago. However, because of the assholes at ATT Palm had to waste man hours putting stupid shit in the upgrade and taking away things that should be there (like Windows Live Mobile).
I hope this kind of abuse changes when the 700mhz spectrum auction takes place...but it may be too late for Palm. |
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Camelot One
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join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
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| It doesn't help that they are trying to continue a technology that has been passed up. "Devices" that can do what a Palm can are common now, they no longer have the market. And this tube TV manufacturer is now suffering from everyone else's plasma and LCD products.
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY | Well...
I still like my Treo 600. I was not terribly impressed with the Treo 650, other than the 320x320 display.
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Jameson
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Re: held hostage by the carriers
said by Camelot One  :It doesn't help that they are trying to continue a technology that has been passed up. "Devices" that can do what a Palm can are common now, they no longer have the market. And this tube TV manufacturer is now suffering from everyone else's plasma and LCD products. I personally like the palm os over the windows one. |
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bky
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join:2002-07-05
Austin, TX | 700wx
Horrible, bulky phones. Why carry it around when a thin blackjack can do all the same things. |
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Camelot One
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Re: held hostage by the carriers
As do I. And I also still prefer the image quality of a CRT over LCD. But Palm simply can't expect to maintain the same sales, profits, and employment numbers now that they aren't the ONLY game in town, and now that there are newer technologies (a flip size cell phone that can also do everything a palm can for example)
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DotMac4
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1 edit | Duh, 'cause it sucks
I had a Treo700W with Verizon and it's a horrible piece of crap hampered by an even worse mobile OS. Everything from the button layout to the antenna design, it's just not thought out. With so many competitors lowering their prices like i760, Q and BB, I'm surprised Palm sells any of their crap anymore. At the time it was $600 with a contract and even now, they're still running in the $300-$400 range. There are simply competing devices that are far superior for the same or lower price.
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Jameson
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Re: held hostage by the carriers
said by Camelot One :As do I. And I also still prefer the image quality of a CRT over LCD. But Palm simply can't expect to maintain the same sales, profits, and employment numbers now that they aren't the ONLY game in town, and now that there are newer technologies (a flip size cell phone that can also do everything a palm can for example) Agreed. I see your point. |
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BK
join:2001-09-10
Wheaton, IL | evole or die..
blackberry ate what business market share they had. they used to have products that basically nothing else could do (well).
now its commonplace, almost every phone can do what they do
oh well |
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Pictor Guy
join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA
| Palm and RIM in same boat
Palm and RIM have been hanging onto a format from the late 90's and early '00's. There has been little innovation from these two companies and if not for the enterprise support RIM would be in the same boat.
The Palm (and RIM) is about as cool as a scientific calculator. Sure it gets the job done and you may even be required to get one for a task but that's about it. |
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DotMac4
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join:2007-10-26
Huntington Beach, CA | reply to Jameson
Re: held hostage by the carriers
PalmOS isn't enough to save sorry hardware. |
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redhatnation
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|  Glad the market kicked them in the teeth
My Treo 700p was possibly the worst mobile phone I've ever owned. If I had a dollar for every time my 700p locked up or just froze for several seconds, I'd have been a millionaire. When Palm pushed an "update" that claimed to fix the lockup/freeze problems, the update process was so tedious that it took over AN HOUR, didn't fix the original problems, and managed to introduce new problems (apps started crashing).
Utterly worthless, that Treo 700p.
Check Amazon.com reviews of the 700p for more evidence. |
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Jameson
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Re: held hostage by the carriers
said by DotMac4 :PalmOS isn't enough to save sorry hardware. Sorry hardware? My Palm phone is one of the most reliable, able to take a terrible beating, phone I have ever owned. |
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mlerner
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Re: Palm and RIM in same boat
said by Pictor Guy :Palm and RIM have been hanging onto a format from the late 90's and early '00's. There has been little innovation from these two companies and if not for the enterprise support RIM would be in the same boat. The Palm (and RIM) is about as cool as a scientific calculator. Sure it gets the job done and you may even be required to get one for a task but that's about it. True but the difference is RIM has been established as a leader for push email and the majority of business people continue to use their devices.
On the other hand, all Palm has is an ancient OS that hasn't changed in years. I haven't met anyone that still uses the Palm OS. |
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Pictor Guy
join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA
| said by mlerner :True but the difference is RIM has been established as a leader for push email and the majority of business people continue to use their devices. That's why I said "if not for the enterprise support RIM would be in the same boat." RIM is also resting on its laurels and hasn't innovated. If they continue down the same path, RIM will be Palm 2.0 as some new player gets into the enterprise market. And I don't think push email is the killer app for RIM either. Most IT Managers in the enterprise want security and RIM offers this. A phone that works on `pull' email but offers the same security options as what RIM offers could easily be a disruptor in the field. |
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Tomek
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Brooklyn, NY
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| PalmOS
That's the biggest problem with Palm, the OS
They sold it to ACCESS and that's it, they're done.
Either Palm will offer a product based on ALP (palmOS 6) or they will die. I'm sick and tired of very limited OS.
Imagine treo with multitasking capability and laptop comparable performance. Now we're talking.
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jameswade
join:2001-12-09
Hot Springs, NC | reply to DotMac4
Re: Duh, 'cause it sucks
Someone want to buy my 700w? After I year I couldn't stand it any more and got a Blackberry.
What a unreliable POS the 700w is. |
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jameswade
join:2001-12-09
Hot Springs, NC | reply to redhatnation
Re: Glad the market kicked them in the teeth
700w is (Windows Mobile) is no better. I've never had so many lockups in a device. |
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meister_sd
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join:2006-01-29
La Mesa, CA | reply to n2jtx
Re: Well...
I actually went with the 650 because I can see better in daylight. The 650's screen turns a kind of Monochrome and is very readable in direct sunlight.
Other than that - I didn't see a whole lot for what I do... |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | reply to bky
Re: 700wx
because the thin blackjack can't do all of those things. Windows Mobile Standard pales in comparison to Windows Mobile Professional |
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