gatorkram
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| Cut off the head...
Cut off the head of the snake, if you expect to kill it.
These companies didn't approach the government, and say, hey man, would you guys like all this data. It is my understanding they were asked to do it.
Go after the ones who asked for the data in the first place.
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morbo
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Re: Cut off the head...
go after the ones that GAVE THE DATA WITHOUT A WARRANT: AT&T and VERZION.
this "excuse" is favored by the telco lobbyists fighting for immunity. AT&T and Verizon had a choice. they decided to break the law. period. |
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Kilroy
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1 edit | I wish
I could do anything I wanted and then just have a law passed to retro actively make it legal. One more year of this, just one more year, unless of course Bush decides he should be the supreme ruler for life. |
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TKJunkMail
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Re: Cut off the head...
said by gatorkram  :Cut off the head of the snake, if you expect to kill it. These companies didn't approach the government, and say, hey man, would you guys like all this data. It is my understanding they were asked to do it.
Go after the ones who asked for the data in the first place. Eisenhower?; JFK? etc. Every administration since the cold war began has had access to this info.
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Re: Cut off the head...
So the govt is sued and is out billions of dollars instead of the telco... difference is that EVERYONE pays when the govt loses money, only telco subscribers pay when the telco loses money.
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said by gatorkram :These companies didn't approach the government, and say, hey man, would you guys like all this data. It is my understanding they were asked to do it. Go after the ones who asked for the data in the first place. That's exactly the point isn't it? We hear people say a crime was committed. But, those same people can't rise to the level of proving a crime through a court of impeachment. They want to lower the standard to proving those who followed the so-called ringleader committed a crime. But, they can't rise to that level either. So, they'll settle for "bleed 'em dry" civil court. The same place where hot coffee was abolished. Where cases are viewed as your chance to win the lottery.
And all the while we're to remember these are the high-minded folk, following the Constitution, taking the high road, quoting the founders (often out of context) to prove how different they are from the dirty pragmatists.
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Kommie Karl and his opinion again...I thought it was actual news until I saw who wrote it. His ability to blur the facts is as creative as his comprehension of the facts. |
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DotMac4
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| Problem is...
If AT&T is made to pay, customers (who were the ones wronged here) lose with higher rates and no one other than bloodsucking ambulance chasing lawyers win just as they always do with these BS class action suits.
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DotMac4
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Re: Cut off the head...
How their legal departments didn't see this coming from miles away is baffling
But if Verizon and AT&T are liable, so are those in gov't who took the information. Those people responsible should be sent to jail. |
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DotMac4
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Oh, so that makes it okay. |
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i'm sure there was an extensive discussion in the legal departments of these two companies, just like there was at Qwest.
agreed- AT&T and Verzion aren't the only ones that are guilty of breaking the law. However, good luck with tracing it into the bowels of the NSA... |
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Re: Problem is...
Hammer, Nail, Head. |
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DotMac4
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Re: Kommie Karl Strikes Again
So since when is spending millions lobbying Congress not purchasing?
The money is going somewhere... |
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gatorkram
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Re: Cut off the head...
said by DotMac4 :How their legal departments didn't see this coming from miles away is baffling But if Verizon and AT&T are liable, so are those in gov't who took the information. Those people responsible should be sent to jail. My guess is, the government told them, they would be protected, and so far, they were right.
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said by morbo :this "excuse" is favored by the telco lobbyists fighting for immunity. AT&T and Verizon had a choice. they decided to break the law. period. This "excuse" is favored by those who can't prove a law was broken. They aren't going to criminal court, but instead to that civil court. The same place you go when you spill hot coffee on yourself and it just *has* to be someone else's fault.
Can you guys quote the founders for that high-minded principle?
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Re: Kommie Karl Strikes Again
said by DotMac4 :So since when is spending millions lobbying Congress not purchasing? The money is going somewhere... I think he's being sarcastic.... |
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Re: I wish
said by Kilroy :One more year of this, just one more year, unless of course Bush decides he should be the supreme ruler for life.  Somehow I don't think "for life" would be very long in that case.
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