gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
| Arooooooooooo
Wolf!
History
In 1860, a US federal law subsidizing a coast-to-coast telegraph line stated that
“ ...messages received from any individual, company, or corporation, or from any telegraph lines connecting with this line at either of its termini, shall be impartially transmitted in the order of their reception, excepting that the dispatches of the government shall have priority. ”
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_ne···#History
--
‘Do ye, quieting in your bosoms your strong hearts,
Who of many good things have had your fill even to surfeit,
With what is moderate nourish your mighty desire; for neither will
We yield, nor shall you have all else as you wish.’
Solon |
|
cdr1000
join:2004-02-18
10100
 ·RCN CABLE
| Read your e-mail at a blazing speed
"they decided to implement new traffic shaping policies."
They did not notify customers about "policies" that they decided to "change".
At this rate RCN can lose NYC market to competitors. Torrents are very popular.
RCN can also put in place a more flexible pricing structure.
--
Who needs oil?
I ride the bus. |
|
ossito16
join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN
·RCN CABLE
| what troubles
I have RCN and I have not seen any problems with Torrents. i use Utorrent and downloaded a linux distro last night no problem and left on sharing for a few hours. I will cancel my hdtv service if my connection is being screwed with and go satellite and keep their internet only for basic utility & gaming.
I wonder if those guys who were having problems checked their pings times and packet health within rcn routers. I know RCN has bad problems from time 2 time. |
|
rcnman
Jason Nealis
Premium,VIP
join:2003-05-02
Herndon, VA
| reply to cdr1000
Re: Read your e-mail at a blazing speed
Hello Frontpage of DSL Reports 
We did not change any policies towards the management of Bit Torrent Traffic, At this point these issues seem to be isolated around a technical problem we are having with the devices used to enforce the current P2P management policy. (which has been the same for quite sometime)
I'm looking into this now and hopefully will have it resolved very shortly.
Jason Nealis
Sr. Director, Operations
RCN
--
Jason Nealis,
Sr. Director, Operations and Internet Systems
RCN |
|
macguy
join:2007-08-18
Bloomfield, NJ | I like RCN!
I like the way RCN handle seeding with bit torrent. Limiting the number of connections is a lot more tame than comcast's all out blocking. |
|
wruckman
Ruckman.net
join:2007-10-25
Northwood, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
2 edits | BitTorrent / P2P limiting
Actually limiting the number of connections may be one of the best initiatives against greedy users. As long as you impose the limit on all traffic and not just traffic classified as torrent traffic. This is because a user could still encrypt their traffic connections so that the layer 7 filter couldn't read it. They could use Encrypted transport RC4 or a VPN to a third party network and bypass torrent or P2P filtering altogether. |
|
ohhhyeeeahhh
@comcast.net | linux distro.....
likely story! |
|
sycocowz
join:2002-06-13
Ottsville, PA | old news
I posted about this in the RCN forums in August 2005. They later admitted to using "tuning" applications on their network. |
|
lawilson2
Premium
join:2001-04-30
Chicago, IL
| reply to macguy
Re: I like RCN!
said by macguy  :I like the way RCN handle seeding with bit torrent. Limiting the number of connections is a lot more tame than comcast's all out blocking. I 100% agree with you. I like RCN's policy too. I wish I knew exactly how many upload/download connections they allow so I can tune uTorrent accordingly. But you're right, this is much better than blocking it totally. I get great speeds from RCN on uTorrent and I use it very modestly. |
|
espaeth
Digital Plumber
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
 ·voip.ms
·Vitelity VOIP
·Callcentric
·VoiceStick
·ViaTalk
·Comcast
 ·Embarq
| reply to macguy
said by macguy :I like the way RCN handle seeding with bit torrent. Limiting the number of connections is a lot more tame than comcast's all out blocking. Uhh.. that's exactly what Comcast does -- closes a portion of the connections when seeding. The only difference is in the case of RCN you're saying that your number of connections is being "limited," and in the Comcast threads people are saying a portion of their connections are being "blocked." It's just two different ways of describing the exact same behavior. |
|
Big Al
@swbell.net | reply to rcnman
Re: Read your e-mail at a blazing speed
rcnman, just so you know: I'm considering new service in NYC but won't consider RCN unless it provides a fair Bit Torrent policy and fixes the glitches.
Thanks,
- Al |
|
macguy
join:2007-08-18
Bloomfield, NJ | reply to espaeth
Re: I like RCN!
No, with comcast, I could not seed at all. I could only upload while downloading.
With RCN I am able to seed perfectly.
So, you are wrong, it's not the same thing. |
|
Quadrille
@rr.com | reply to sycocowz
Re: old news
That was 2005, this is nearing 08', and a case which hasn't been a problem before so i'm not sure what you're getting at. |
|
rcnman
Jason Nealis
Premium,VIP
join:2003-05-02
Herndon, VA
| reply to sycocowz
This has been fixed. It was a problem with a device and not any sort of policy change.
Jason Nealis
RCN
--
Jason Nealis,
Sr. Director, Operations and Internet Systems
RCN |
|
TheMG
join:2007-09-04
Edmonton, AB
·TELUS
| reply to wruckman
Re: BitTorrent / P2P limiting
Well, restricting the number of upstream connections on all protocols can cause problems with some non-P2P applications that also rely heavily on a large number of connections.
For one thing, games. When you have a list of 27,000 servers to query, having a limited number of connections is certainly not gonna help. |
|
gweeper
join:2002-01-04
Southborough, MA | Who said anything about "upstream on all protocols"? That's no what's done. |
|
wruckman
Ruckman.net
join:2007-10-25
Northwood, OH | reply to TheMG
Exactly  |
|
