markopoleo
join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO | Wrong..
It had nothing to do with "restrictive download model" like author failed grasp. It has to do with they could not get the partners they wanted to sign up for them, and the lack of interest because of such. |
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Nightfall
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| Its less about the restriction and more about the price.
Sure, the common BBR user will say it was a restriction on where you could play the video, but the simple fact of the matter it was the price. For $20, someone can buy a movie for crying out loud. Why pay $20 to download it and not have a copy you can carry to your big screen HDTV.
The common user doesn't take the time to burn DVDs at their computer. To most users, its easier to just go out and buy the freaking movie on a disc and bring it home. Oh, and the price to buy the movie will probably be less than $20 too.
If Walmart made the system so it was like $2 for downloads of movies, then this service probably would have took off. As it is, $20 is way overpriced.
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inteller
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join:2003-12-08
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| well this is the first I had heard of it
But maybe that's because I don't think of Walmart when I want to go buy media.
Wal-mart has some serious image issues when it comes to the internet. They should concentrate on what they are good at, moving phyiscal merchandise.....their site to store option with no shipping really kicks ass....if they could just get around the tax issue like Amazon does. |
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TKJunkMail
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| reply to markopoleo
Re: Wrong..
said by markopoleo  :It had nothing to do with "restrictive download model" like author failed grasp. It has to do with they could not get the partners they wanted to sign up for them, and the lack of interest because of such. How do you make money when most people are stealing the movies at illegal web sites? |
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verolom
join:2002-03-23
Eagleville, PA | Apple
Just in time for Apple to introduce their movie rental business. Somehow I doubt movies from iTunes would be much cheaper or burnable to DVDs and yet somehow their venture will likely succeed. Wonder why... |
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BillRoland
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| Amazon UnBox
I've recently begun using the Amazon UnBox video download service. I'm not terribly wild about the downloading agent you have to install, but its minimally intrusive (I disable the service and the auto-start with Windows Defender when I don't have anything coming up). Sure, the movies I download come with DRM, but should I lose it or something happen I can easily re-download it from Amazon, and the prices are right ($1.99 for hour long TV shows at DVD quality? Who can beat that?) I've also purchased quite a few DRM free MP3's at Amazon too. Overall Amazon seems to be on the right track with a "Cheap and Easy" model. Its not surprising to see Wal-Mart (and others) fail when they provide something that is neither cheap nor easy.
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Mactron
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| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Wrong..
said by TKJunkMail :How do you make money when most people are stealing the movies at illegal web sites? You price it competitively. $20 and it won't play in your DVD player is nonsense and NOT competitive. Not everyone is in on the worldwide conspiracy to steal media. 
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dr3yec
join:2002-12-19
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Re: Amazon UnBox
If it isnt hd quality I wont touch it. I am hooked on wmvhd vc1. Not quite the size of true hd-dvd but still really nice. I will never watch a dvd movie ever again. Not as long as I have a hd tv. Walmart had no chance with there content. Plus $20 a movie. I dont think so. |
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Dogfather
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| reply to Nightfall
Re: Its less about the restriction and more about the price.
Not just that, but you can often get DVD's for WAY cheaper than $20.
It's just like the networks' demands on Apple with iTunes. They wanted to increase the price to the point it would be way cheaper to just buy the entire season on DVD.
Greed gets the better of some companies. |
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Dogfather
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| reply to BillRoland
Re: Amazon UnBox
I'm not a big TiVo fan but I happen to be browsing Amazon.com today with a gift cert I received and clicked on the unbox ad. I was pleasantly surprised that they were renting movies like Transformers for only $0.99. That's a great deal, 80% cheaper than PPV, and even cheaper or as cheap as the local mom-and-pop video rental stores.
I have no problem with DRM with movie rentals. I'd gladly deal with DRM and just watch the movie rather than having to drive to the store to rent the movie then drive home, then have to do it all over when I'm done watching it.
It almost makes it worth buying a TiVo. |
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TwKs
join:2007-04-29
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Re: Wrong..
said by TKJunkMail :How do you make money when most people are stealing the movies at illegal web sites? How can you say most people? That is a very broad generalization, is it not? |
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TKJunkMail
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1 edit | said by TwKs :said by TKJunkMail :How do you make money when most people are stealing the movies at illegal web sites? How can you say most people? That is a very broad generalization, is it not? Based on hundreds of news articles over the last 2 years publishing the results of surveys, polls, etc.
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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said by TKJunkMail :How do you make money when most people are stealing the movies at illegal web sites? same way the bottled water companies do - offer consumers convenience, choice, no restrictions and reasonable price.
not a single movie download service has done this yet and until they do, these endeavors will continue to fail.
I call BS to eternity to anyone that bitches about "how can they make money when it's available for free!!!!"
maybe you should go talk to RadioHead. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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| reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail :]Based on hundreds of news articles over the last 2 years publishing the results of surveys, polls, etc. most of which were either written by "stenographers" simply laying out the industry line, are based on non-reviewed data paid for by the industry, or are simply numbers made up by some group or organization.
the only rigorous, academic studies I am aware of indicate that "pirating" has little or no impact on media sales; one study targeted at P2P music sharing indicates there could actually be a positive impact on music sales. |
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yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON | reply to verolom
Re: Apple
They'll have to price it in line with regular DVD rentals otherwise there's not much point in renting from them. I can see it being $1-2 more than the typical rental place because of convenience but much more than that and I doubt it'll succeed. |
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jesseb_66
join:2002-12-06
Tucson, AZ | reply to nasadude
Re: Wrong..
$20 is just too much. Unless a movie is brand spanking new and even then you can still find it cheaper else where. I personnally just wait a few months after DVD realease and pick a used copy from blockbuster for 4 for 20.... |
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dvd536
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| DRM
When are these businesses going to get it?
people want versatility[doesnt play on dvd players yet costs as much as an in store dvd]
look at the pirate sites
good quality, plays in anything, no DRM.
it isnt rocket science what people want.
tip to wal*mart: 500kbps is *NOT* anywhere near dvd quality.
tip to HP: its your DRM and internet explorer only solution people aren't interested in.
clone a pirate site and slap a shopping cart on it[instant success]
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dvd536
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Phoenix, AZ
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Wrong..
said by TKJunkMail :said by markopoleo :It had nothing to do with "restrictive download model" like author failed grasp. It has to do with they could not get the partners they wanted to sign up for them, and the lack of interest because of such. How do you make money when most people are stealing the movies at illegal web sites? same way itunes does. demand is there.
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fuziwuzi
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| reply to Dogfather
Re: Amazon UnBox
I have an older Series2 TiVO that the Amazon Unbox link has given new life. I can sit here with my analog cable and browse the "pay-per-view" list on Amazon and several other sources with ease and the ones I want can then be downloaded to my TiVO for watching at my leisure, cheaper than what the cable company charges for PPV and their "digital" package. |
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Silliness
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Re: Wrong..
If it's in the news, it must be right! Believe everything you read? Surveys are opinions, not reality. Polls are also opinions. The data depends on who you ask. Not exactly accurate. |
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