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Comments on news posted 2008-01-03 16:16:09: The MPEG-4 compression standard uses less bandwidth, allowing carriers to provide more HD channels. DirecTV and Dish have already embraced the standard, and the cable industry is soon to follow. ..

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partysource

join:2000-11-25
Phoenix, AZ
Oh Nice...

The real question is..When will DOCSIS 3.0 finally come to the USA?


MacLeech
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When both ends of the connection equipment are certified for it.

Many of the current CMTSs cable companies use can be upgraded to DOCSIS 3.0 without total replacement of the gear, but there aren't any real DOCSIS 3 modems certified or available yet.

...

1 Ghz tuners, MPEG4, SDV, and DOCSIS 3.... that should work out nice with all the recent upgrades I've seen TWC doing lately. Wonder if Verizon FIOS will do anything with those new boxes.... I'm sure they'd like MPEG4 and 150 Mhz of extra channel space.

curls310

join:2007-09-26
Hillsdale, NJ
will verizon use this for fios tv?

i sure hope so. we'll have unlimited hd with this and iptv.


swintec
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Alfred, ME
reply to partysource
Re: Oh Nice...

Boy those set top boxes sure look slick. That new modem is huge, but I guess its needed when you pack that many functions into it.
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wruckman
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Northwood, OH
Innovation

Some good thought and innovation from Motorola! Kudos!


cypherstream
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Reading, PA
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Wow!

Wow I like it!

Can't wait until this becomes mainstream!

I hope Motorola engineered a quality product this time around. Some good CPU horsepower, decent memory, expandable DVR storage and native HD resolution pass through would be some great additions.


phoneboy3

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Innovative?

Thought and innovation? Mpeg4 is nothing new. As the article stated, it's been included in Sat TV boxes for awhile.

WiMAX modems are....well WiMAX modems. What is innovative about that?


whatevrzclvr

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Positive Feeback from BBR community... it MUST be good!

This box does look nice and it sounds like it'll set the standard for a while. Let's hope it prompts our cable operators to roll out their upgrades pronto.

Have you seen Diego's new Moxi box? It has a very cool retro look but definitely not something I'd want in my living room (though the integrated DVD player is a nice touch for those wanting to reduce cord clutter!)

bigdmrk1110

join:2006-04-24
Richardson, TX
Wonder if AT&T/UVERSE will use them?

God knows they could use the bandwidth for their overcompressed HD signals already.

tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

It may look sexy, BUT....

Given Motorola's track record, this could turn out to be another POS that was not designed properly, never gets a single cable company commitment to buy (thus, making it vapor-ware), etc. So, it's very much cart before the horse here... but drool over it if you want.. I know better.. We haven't seen Motorola come out squeaky clean on docsis 3.0 interop testing... cmts and set-top cablemodems.

And... they should be taken out back and shot for what they did to Verizon with those set-tops.. THE WORST!

xenophon

join:2007-09-17
Good news

Hopefully TimeWarner Cable will support this and deliver MPEG4 this year. They already support OCAP boxes in my area.

koolkid1563
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reply to bigdmrk1110
Re: Wonder if AT&T/UVERSE will use them?

U-verse is already using MPEG-4, so this won't change anything even if AT&T did switch to them. Maybe the GUI would be smoother with less problems related to the hardware itself, but I don't think an improvement in PQ will happen unless AT&T changes their encoding techniques.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

reply to curls310
Re: will verizon use this for fios tv?

said by curls310 See Profile :

i sure hope so. we'll have unlimited hd with this and iptv.
So many technical mistakes. FIOS uses a fundamentally different kind of box. It has to have MOCA. Next, anything with DOCSIS, either the device, or the DOCSIS circuitry is useless. FIOS does not use DOCSIS anywhere. FIOS uses a 750mhz "plant" (remember the ONT is a HFC Fiber Node), it was a design decision from day one, Verizon isn't going to be increasing the bandwidth on that anytime soon. There isn't even a standard out for RF broadcast tv over PON at 1 GHZ.

Alan
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Atlantic Beach, FL
DVR

And if Moto enables an eSATA port so cable customers can expand the amount of recording hours their DVR box can record, it would really be cool.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

reply to whatevrzclvr
Re: Positive Feeback from BBR community... it MUST be good!

said by whatevrzclvr See Profile :

Have you seen Diego's new Moxi box? It has a very cool retro look but definitely not something I'd want in my living room (though the integrated DVD player is a nice touch for those wanting to reduce cord clutter!)
For me Retro is steel case, bakelite knobs that clink when you turn them, and stenciled on lettering, analog meters, and neon bulb powered displays, and maybe some real or fake wood.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

reply to koolkid1563
Re: Wonder if AT&T/UVERSE will use them?

said by koolkid1563 See Profile :

U-verse is already using MPEG-4, so this won't change anything even if AT&T did switch to them. Maybe the GUI would be smoother with less problems related to the hardware itself, but I don't think an improvement in PQ will happen unless AT&T changes their encoding techniques.
Its not the encoding technique, its the bitrate ATT uses. ATT is scared to turn it up, since then more bandwidth is needed, and it can knock out customers on poor VDSL lines (existing copper problems, long loop to VRAD), or use all 3 set top boxes at once.


submrge

join:2004-10-10
Mine Hill, NJ
they need to fire their industrial design dept.

that box looks like dog crap

Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
reply to bigdmrk1110
Re: Wonder if AT&T/UVERSE will use them?

What do you think MPEG4 does? It saves bandwidth because it does more (supposedly better) compression.

ajwees41
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Re: DVR

said by Alan See Profile :

And if Moto enables an eSATA port so cable customers can expand the amount of recording hours their DVR box can record, it would really be cool.
it not motorola deciding what's enabled it's the cable company

salahx

join:2001-12-03
Saint Louis, MO

What about CableCard though?

Wont MPEG4 be incompatible with digital TV though (without a set-top box)? Thew whole point of CableCard was to get rid of the ugly, bulky boxes. For a CableCard-type setup to work with this new scheme; it'll require new TV's. And then in another decade, when they want to change the scheme AGAIN to whatever facing compression/encoding mechanism of the day is hot.

(I realize CableCArd 2.0 is going to require new TV's ANYWAY; but we can't ber repeating this process every 10 years. Unless, of course, there a remove module for the compression/encoding too. I know for most people CableCard 1.0 is inadequate but keep in mind it was conceived over a decade ago, but the digital TV deployment and POD cards were excessively delayed due to foot-dragging by the industry.

Are we really going to be stuck with these infernal boxes forever?
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