pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD | So Typical of Sony
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They're calling this new initiative "tru2way" and all of the major manufacturers are on board except Sony.
What was Sony's standard called? Betamax?
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wruckman
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join:2007-10-25
Northwood, OH
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| Perfect!
We need to standardize. Cross compatibility is needed. Having 30 different proprietary standards is ridiculous. It reminds me of "N" technology in WIFI. No industry-wide standard for it makes it difficult to port your equipment to other locations. This way if you buy a cable box of your own, you can use it on any network! SOLID! |
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wruckman
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Northwood, OH | reply to pnh102
Re: So Typical of Sony
We definitely don't need another re-run of beta technology. Like the old beta tapes and standard vhs tapes. blah. |
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TKJunkMail
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2 edits |  Comcast to support portable DVR/player for tru2way
»news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080107/tc_···nic_dc_1
Comcast and consumer electronics maker Matsushita Electric Industrial's Panasonic unit will launch a co-branded portable digital video player that can show videos like Apple's iPod and record shows from any U.S. cable operator's system.
AnyPlay can record up to 60 hours of video and plays DVDs and CDs. It also features an 8.5-inch display screen. The device will be unveiled on Monday at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.
So Comcast is going to make it possible to take your video with you.
»www.lightreading.com/document.as···ng_gnews
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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| maybe
it would be a tru miracle if it happens at all, even more so if it happens within a few years.
if this statement is true (I have my doubts):
"Our business model has changed completely, from a closed, proprietary model to an open architecture that will work across cable companies - not just across Comcast," Roberts said.
then a true miracle has already happened.
cable companies really don't want this, so it could just be something to pacify the FCC for a while. |
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phatrabt
join:2002-01-29
Marietta, GA
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·Comcast
| said by nasadude  :it would be a tru miracle if it happens at all, even more so if it happens within a few years. if this statement is true (I have my doubts): "Our business model has changed completely, from a closed, proprietary model to an open architecture that will work across cable companies - not just across Comcast," Roberts said. then a true miracle has already happened. cable companies really don't want this, so it could just be something to pacify the FCC for a while. I'm with you on this. It seems like a ploy to get the FCC to look at one hand while the other is doing the what it wants. |
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TKJunkMail
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said by nasadude :it would be a tru miracle if it happens at all, even more so if it happens within a few years. Comcast has been moving their whole infrastructure to OCAP(tru2way) for the last year. The only thing new is that they are making a big announcement to cut off the FCC at the pass.
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gaforces
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join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA | Interoperability
I hope this will allow them to line share ... The article doesn't say. |
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pende_tim
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Andover, NJ
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Re: So Typical of Sony
How about HD and Blu Ray DVD format war going on now? |
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ultatryon
join:2002-04-10
Waterford, CT
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Re: Interoperability
The technology that they are talking about has absolutely nothing to do with linesharing. It has to do with better STB compatibility across the differing digital control types.
This particular problem has nothing to do with Comcast either. Where this stems from is the lack of interoperability between the Motorola and Scientific Atlanta digital distribution systems. If you build a box/tv that is capable of talking to the OOB network of a Motorola headend, then it is not capable of talking to an SA headend, and vice-versa.
OCAP is the use of a DOCSIS cable modem to handle OOB data, which is a big step in the right direction, but OCAP is still very very new, and is quite buggy. To my knowledge, there have not been any widespread deployments of OCAP to date.
Once you get boxes talking all the same, then you need them all to understand the same language. For example, the EPG. The EPG that I use in my cable system is TVGuide's i-Guide. I use 3 different versions of the software, depending on the set top box type (one for DCT2000s, one for DCT2500s, and one for all HD/DVR boxes). The particular code I am using would not work on any other type of box, be it SA, Pace, or what have you.
Once there is standardization amongst STBs and TVs, then we can push all the same software, and have a unified experience for all customers. The only item that would be proprietary would be the Separable Security module (aka CableCard)
I for one, am really excited about the prospect of this. I would love to be able to use any box of any type on my Motorola network, but this is still a ways away from becoming a reality. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to gaforces
And I seriously doubt that the cablecos would voluntarily move to an architecture that facilitates easy and open line sharing...even if it were technically feasible. |
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AVonGauss
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join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL
| OCAP...
You do realize OCAP is akin to saying you can use any device to connect to our network as long as it's running my operating system and I get to control the software you run - right?
OCAP definitely has a role and can benefit both consumers and providers alike, but it is a far cry from an open specification that allows third party devices to connect. |
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wruckman
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join:2007-10-25
Northwood, OH | reply to pende_tim
Re: So Typical of Sony
Exactly! |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
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Re: Interoperability
said by openbox9 :And I seriously doubt that the cablecos would voluntarily move to an architecture that facilitates easy and open line sharing...even if it were technically feasible. Yah your probably right, they'd rather fight the 30% cap in court and not have to compete. |
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touchtone561
join:2007-12-10
Lake Worth, FL | reply to pnh102
Re: So Typical of Sony
Maybe Sony is just waiting to see what the standard will be.
They need to save money on R&D  |
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MichaelWacey
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Berwyn, PA
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Re: maybe
said by TKJunkMail :said by nasadude :it would be a tru miracle if it happens at all, even more so if it happens within a few years. Comcast has been moving their whole infrastructure to OCAP(tru2way) for the last year. The only thing new is that they are making a big announcement to cut off the FCC at the pass. But, the legislation tht required this was written in 1997. The Cable Industry has been slow to adapt. It is only the FCC and IPTV that are making them take action now. |
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC
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| I feel like I'm missing something
I don't understand what this technology will accomplish in the long term. The short answer is "use interactive TV without cable boxes". To me it sounds analogous to "use broadband on your computer without cable or DSL modems". Which in theory its nice to get rid of a box, but then there are questions... how much more is a TV with this tech going to cost? Can I connect multiple TVs? Will I have to get a new TV when the technology is upgraded?
I don't have any problem with cable boxes, it's the lack of outputs on them, and extra cost to use multiple TVs, and maybe noise and slowdowns in performance. The value of "tru2way" will be how many of these issues it solves... but they could have been solved in a set top box, without making people buy new TVs, so I doubt the will is there to solve them. |
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imrf
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI | reply to openbox9
Re: Interoperability
TWC is already doing that. Well they actually had to due to the AOL purchase. So it is 100% feasible. |
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17 | More HD is all that matters
I don't care what standards occur as long as there are more HD channels on cable. Thinking about switching to DirecTV. |
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Richard B
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join:2007-06-22
Portland, OR
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| It called a cable Box
To me this is just make work bureaucracy. The cable box provides the connection between TV be it my “ancient “analog or those no fangled LCD or Plasma sets. A long as the box has analog and digital video output jack I do not see the need for the FCC to get involved. |
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