  Jodokast96 R.I.P Bassman442 Premium join:2005-11-23 Erial, NJ | Big deal
though he did illustrate to attendees how with DOCSIS 3.0, they could download a full HD copy of Batman Begins in four minutes. After less than an hour you'll hit your monthly limit. |
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 Lazlow
join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO
| Makes little sense
DOCSIS 1.X will do 40 down / 10 up. If they(cable in general) would just go that far it would be a huge jump for most of us without having to replace everything. DOCSIS 3.0 is great but, even if it can do 160 down/ 120 up, will we have access to this? If they intend to do so, why can't we get 40/10 now? |
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  Dogfather Premium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA 1 edit | reply to Jodokast96 Re: Big deal
They'll have the capacity to significantly raise or abolish the limit...should they choose to. And these movie transfers demonstrate their HD VOD capabilities which wouldn't apply to HSI restrictions. |
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  jimbo48
join:2000-11-17 Hayward, CA
·AT&T DSL Service
·EarthLink
| DOCSIS3.0
Have to laugh at the statement that Comcast customers will have these seemingly out of this world speeds (up and down). I guess I'm one of those who will have to wait till the 2nd coming to get download of greater than 1500/256. Comcast doesn't offer digital/HD TV phone or high speed Internet technology to my area(San Francisco Bay area) yet they've milked the ratepayers for years with the claim that the rate hikes were for upgrading their offering. I currently have Earthlink/COVAD at 3000/384 along with LPVoice telephone and a VOIP line which runs about as well as a blind- threee-legged dog BUT its better than Comcast AT&T or the others have offered. some day we will join the ranks of the 21st century technology but till then............. |
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  comcast_customer
@accelnet.net
from: Cabal 
| perhaps you should move out of the sticks then... |
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  JasonD
@comcast.net
from: Cabal 
| In FIOS areas.......
by all means upgrade to DOCSIS 3 and make those areas a proving ground for high speed offerings. But elsewhere save your money and take your time. AT&T has given Comcast a free pass where they compete, and they had better take advantage of this. No need for DOCSIS 3 in any of those areas. |
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  Broadband Fan
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said by jimbo48 :Comcast doesn't offer digital/HD TV phone or high speed Internet technology to my area(San Francisco Bay area) yet they've milked the ratepayers for years with the claim that the rate hikes were for upgrading their offering. Really? Hmm, I'm in the S.F. Bay Area and have HD TV, Phone and High Speed Internet choices from Comcast.
I didn't realize the folks in Hayward had been left out of these Comcast services. |
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  jslik That just happened Premium join:2006-03-17 clubs:
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perhaps you should move out of the sticks then... Uhhh....I wouldn't call Hayward 'in the sticks'. -- If they told you wolverines would make good house pets, would you believe them? -"Planes, Trains & Automobiles" |
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  decadent Premium join:2002-04-02 Piscataway, NJ
| reply to Lazlow Re: Makes little sense
said by Lazlow : If they intend to do so, why can't we get 40/10 now? It is shared bandwidth. 40Mb is shared by 250 (OOL)-2000 households. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_Fibre_Coaxial. They don't want one user to hog all bandwidth on the node. Although OOL Boost with 30Mps almost allows it. |
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 Lazlow
join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO 1 edit | reply to comcast_customer Re: DOCSIS3.0
Yeah, Hayward, CA population 140K. Yep, that is way out in the sticks.
Edit: Jslik beat me to it. |
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 Lazlow
join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO | reply to decadent Re: Makes little sense
And how will that change with 3.0? |
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 eco Premium join:2001-11-28 Wilmington, DE | The nice thing..
The nice thing about living in Comcast's home market is that it means we'll likely be part of that 20% that gets the upgrade this year. I have FiOS right now but I'd love to see the competition in the internet realm really heat up. |
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 eco Premium join:2001-11-28 Wilmington, DE | reply to JasonD Re: In FIOS areas.......
I disagree, because AT&T is acting the way they are, that is precisely the reason Comcast should upgrade some of those areas first. |
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  decadent Premium join:2002-04-02 Piscataway, NJ | reply to Lazlow Re: Makes little sense
480 Mbps will be shared between 250-2000 houses. It is much better. BTW, I think, that is why they still offer only 160Mps, not full 480Mpbs, so one user cannot overload the node. |
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 etaadmin
join:2002-01-17 Dallas, TX | reply to Lazlow With DOCSIS3.0 users will share +480Mbps instead of 42Mbps. ALL 2.0 cable modems sync at 48Mbps down (5360 Ksym/sec) 20Mbps up (2560 Ksym/sec) Time slots (provisioning) is what defines your speed. |
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 Lazlow
join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO | reply to decadent 10 out of 40 is 1/4 of the bandwidth by one person.
160 out of 480 is 1/3 of the bandwidth by one person.
It is the same problem just a bigger pipe. Percentage wise things are worse not better. 1/3>1/4 |
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  JasonD
@comcast.net | reply to eco Re: In FIOS areas.......
This would only make sense if Comcast had a fiduciary responsibility to bury their competition. They don't. They're in business to make money for their stockholders and blowing cash with no competitive reason would be malpractice. |
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 Lazlow
join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO | reply to Dogfather Re: Big deal
DOCSIS 3.0 does not involve VOD. |
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 grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03 New York, NY | reply to Lazlow Re: Makes little sense
No because people will download the same amount of data, just faster. |
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 Lazlow
join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO
| Maybe, but I would bet that is a bad assumption. With the coming shift to HD DVD or Blueray (regardless of which wins out) people will be downloading 25-50gig images instead of 4.4-9gig images. With the switch to DTV in Feb 09 will will be seeing a lot more TV series being sent in HD rather than smaller standard NTSC (yes I know cable does not have to change but I bet it will). Lower resolution stuff in general has been dropping (VCDs are relatively rare already). Even web pages themselves are becoming (or have become) much higher resolution (larger). P2P just keep on growing. Every time more bandwidth becomes available people have found a way to fill it. I do not think that is a trend that is going to change anytime soon. As far as pure data is concerned look at the explosive increases in data set sizes every time a new media became popular: Cds, DVDs, and now whichever format wins out. |
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