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The tubes are full!!I just recall that AT&T Whitacre fool crying the "tubes are gonna burst"... yet really?
Funny, all that upgrading and yet, websites are gonna load up more junk to quagmire it.
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Symmetric speeds... thats's what fiber can do, not docsis 2.Verizon might as well sync their packages...
15/15 30/30
20/20 50/50 100/100
Unless you go for 50/50, 100/100.. you don't need a gpon, just yet. |
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SeattleMattStreaming Tech Director Premium Member join:2001-12-28 Seattle, WA 1 edit |
So they pick PA,NJ,MD and NY but not DE?? Wow...another brainy criteria selection from VZ. |
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morboComplete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000
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morbo
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2008-Jan-9 9:29 am
investors, take note: "future proof"there are many posts on this site that attempt to paint the general consensus here at dslreports.com that Verizon's strategy is superior than pretty much anything else being deployed in this country -- as nothing but fanboy love. in reality, i believe it is the desire to DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME and the future proofing that many believe is a smart strategy. |
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ztmikeMark for moderation Premium Member join:2001-08-02 La Porte, IN |
ztmike
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2008-Jan-9 9:31 am
*yawns*I will probably be 40 years old by the time my city gets fiber..if at all. Probably have better luck with Comcast getting me fiber by then. |
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N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" Guano Premium Member join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs |
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Re: Symmetric speeds... thats's what fiber can do, not docsis 2.Lighten up, Francis.
I'm 2 miles north of you in PA, and I STILL can't get Fios.
Half the town has it, the other half doesn't. All the conduit was installed 6 months ago, and still nothing.
Verizon blames "equipment delays" for the lack of deployment.
Besides, Delaware wasn't left out of the 7MB residential DSL deployment, as a matter of fact, you guys were the trial area..... |
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SeattleMattStreaming Tech Director Premium Member join:2001-12-28 Seattle, WA |
Francis?? Lol...it's Matt. I was just joking anyway. Why would I ever need more than the 15/15 connection I have now? (Yes, I know some people out there need it, just not me) |
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BPON/GPONSo when do we get those possible bumps or upgrades to the equipment we have already? |
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Jodokast96Stupid people piss me off. Premium Member join:2005-11-23 NJ |
Maybe...DOCIS 10.0 will be able to compare? |
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telcolackey5The Truth? You can't handle the truth join:2007-04-06 Death Valley, CA 1 edit
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Re: The tubes are full!!said by cableties:I just recall that AT&T Whitacre fool crying the "tubes are gonna burst"... yet really? Just because your driveway is really, really wide doesn't mean you can get to the city any faster during rush hour. |
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N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" Guano Premium Member join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs |
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Re: Symmetric speeds... thats's what fiber can do, not docsis 2.I'm joking too. The Francis reference is from the movie "Stripes". As a matter of fact, a local Philly area band was called "Don't call me Francis". » www.francisband.com/They used to play the Colosseum before it closed. Don't know if they're any good.... |
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Chris 313Because It's Geekier Premium Member join:2004-07-18 Houma, LA ·AT&T FTTP ·Comcast XFINITY
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said by tmc8080:Verizon might as well sync their packages... 15/15 30/30 20/20 50/50 100/100 Unless you go for 50/50, 100/100.. you don't need a gpon, just yet. No kidding. 10/10 20/20 30/30 50/50 Would be my plan with 100/100 in testing. But I do think that it's stupid to oversubscribe something like 100/100, especially if you pay a premium price and expect to use the service. |
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DX21881 join:2007-10-10 Jersey City, NJ |
this doesnt matterdoesnt make a difference for me because fios is still not available to me in Jersey |
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I live in Cali and where I live there are only two companies to get broadband from, Mediacom and Verizon. I don't think we are going to be getting fios any time soon. |
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Matt3All noise, no signal. Premium Member join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC |
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Re: The tubes are full!!said by telcolackey5:said by cableties:I just recall that AT&T Whitacre fool crying the "tubes are gonna burst"... yet really? Just because your driveway is really, really wide doesn't mean you can get to the city any faster during rush hour. Amen brother. |
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C0deZer0
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2008-Jan-9 11:28 am
BPON, GPON...So is the next version going to be a QPON? |
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Re: The tubes are full!!Maybe they're getting ready to add more HD channels and offer their own version of On Demand. |
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Re: investors, take note: "future proof"I agree. Invest early on ahead of the competition and they'll be so far behind they can't catch up. Eventually, a greater need and demand will come for this service. |
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kyler13Is your fiber grounded? join:2006-12-12 Annapolis, MD |
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Re: The tubes are full!!No, but you and your wife can leave at the same time in the morning. Bandwidth is often confused as being purely about speed when in fact it's just as much about capacity. |
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Matt3All noise, no signal. Premium Member join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC |
Matt3
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2008-Jan-9 12:56 pm
said by kyler13:No, but you and your wife can leave at the same time in the morning. Bandwidth is often confused as being purely about speed when in fact it's just as much about capacity. Yeah, but one of you still has to wait when the road narrows to one lane. I think his point was, unless the band-end (back haul) infrastructure is upgraded, the last mile upgrades don't matter. For pure internet speed anyway. Luckily, it seems like Verizon has been pretty good about upgrading their back hauls if necessary, or at least planning for a reasonable over subscription ratio. |
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kyler13Is your fiber grounded? join:2006-12-12 Annapolis, MD |
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Re: BPON, GPON...Actually, WDM-PON. Think 2.4Gbps dedicated to your house and not shared with 32 or 64 homes. |
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Re: The tubes are full!!All I know is that over my 15 Mbps connection, I can't get more than 3Mbps on a download from Microsoft's HD WMV content site. But I can download 5 large files simultaneously at 3 Mbps. |
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KCrimson
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2008-Jan-9 2:40 pm
4 months too late, not proactive at all...I've been reading about Verizon's GPON transition since before Verizon started to offer FiOS in Brooklyn, NY in August. I'm one of the few customers that signed up immediately when it became available. There are perhaps 6 FiOS cusomers on my entire upscale residential block (I'm in Bergen Beach - a neighborhood with many amazing homes). Since installation I've been scratching my head as to why they didn't deply GPON, and now wondering why people are congratulating them now for being proactive. Brooklyn, NY has GOT to be the most densely populated area that Verizon has deployed FiOS to date (and it will remain so until Manhattan is deployed). I don't think it was proactive, but rather reactive to cable competition's continual domination. I can't wait to hear whether the Ave. R CO which is being wired as I type will have customers using GPON ONT's or not - I bet they're going to be BPON since the CO was probably equipped before this anouncement. |
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morboComplete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000 |
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Re: BPON, GPON...gimme |
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KCrimson Premium Member join:2001-02-25 Brooklyn, NY |
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Re: The tubes are full!!said by kyler13:All I know is that over my 15 Mbps connection, I can't get more than 3Mbps on a download from Microsoft's HD WMV content site. But I can download 5 large files simultaneously at 3 Mbps. Is it only Microsoft's site, or is that for all distant sites? Have you tried something like apple.com that also has large files available from the left coast? |
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wev567 join:2006-02-25 Pittsburgh, PA |
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Re: 4 months too late, not proactive at all...Think they've been testing the technology for some time, and probably waiting for equipment to be standardized and manufactured. Of course, they could have stopped all FiOS design and installation while waiting for the latest upgrades, making you wait even longer.
The upgrade from BPON to GPON will be soon. Meanwhile, enjoy what you are gonna get. |
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Re: The tubes are full!!said by KCrimson:said by kyler13:All I know is that over my 15 Mbps connection, I can't get more than 3Mbps on a download from Microsoft's HD WMV content site. But I can download 5 large files simultaneously at 3 Mbps. Is it only Microsoft's site, or is that for all distant sites? Have you tried something like apple.com that also has large files available from the left coast? its not just your download that makes it fast, you could have a 1,000,000meg's down and still receive the same. the person your downloading from needs a fast upload connection for you to get a fast download, and also u have the distance and all that technical BS to. |
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KCrimson
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2008-Jan-9 6:49 pm
You replied to me - I was the one asking the question about whether he tried to download large files from other distant servers. Didn't you think that I asked that question for precisely the reason that you are attempting to explain? Anyway... I tried a download from Microsoft's HD WMV content server - I too am seeing about 350KB//sec - it's Microsoft's pipe that needs Drano or a wide bore snake. I downloaded a 165MB disk image from apple.com and got over 2.1 MB/sec (also on the west coast). |
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Re: Symmetric speeds... thats's what fiber can do, not docsis 2.20/20 here.. Problem is most sites can't give it to me fast enough. I really think anything for the average user 20/5 is fine Lee |
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Re: *yawns*EAsy kid.. I'm over Forty.. You may like it LOL |
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