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Comments on news posted 2008-01-10 08:52:02: Last month Vermont regulators denied Verizon's $2.6 billion sale of their networks in New England to New Hampshire, making it appear as if the deal might not happen. ..

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wruckman
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Broadband Deployment

Promoting is one thing, but forcing or requiring is another. We should never pass laws or regulations requiring deployment. If business wants to make money and the area has the need someone will deploy. If big business passes it up then small business will take its place. If the people of the community want it make them pay for it out of their pockets. But don't burden everyone else's pockets nationally or statewide by spending my tax dollars on a community I will never go to or care about.
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Matt
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 What could they have done?

What exactly could the FCC have done to Verizon to force them to deploy? I think they realize by now that if Verizon can maneuver their way out of repaying several billion in tax incentives in Pennsylvania without deploying a single strand of fiber, they weren't going to be able to hold their feet to the fire.


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Vermont is stupid

They are going to end up losing phone service for all landlines in the state.
Fairpoint doesn't have the money, the skill, or the staff to do what it has said it would.


cableties
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This sucks...

for my friend in Vermont. He's going to have to re-negotiate his employment with FairPoint. Which leads me to, what about jobs? Verizon bails on taxes (stick it to the consumer), FairPoint picks up debt and rural infrastructure of Verizon (copper lines are the way of dodo), FCC learns how to toss Verizon's salad. But no one promised to keep and add new positions.

And for you southerners, poke it. I know how you work. I've seen how NC health insurance is an option for employers to offer. And how you make folks work weekends (no OT or Dtime).
All this from the south that teachs (still and in their colleges) the Great Northern Aggression as the Civil War.

Will "whistling Dixie" be the new dial tone?

(I am being sarcastic)


Rob
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Re: Vermont is stupid

said by AnonProxy See Profile :

They are going to end up losing phone service for all landlines in the state.
Fairpoint doesn't have the money, the skill, or the staff to do what it has said it would.
And that's exactly what they will tell the government when the time comes and I'm sure our wonderful government will come and bail out Fairpoint.


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 Deal has to go forward

This deal had to be approved. If it wasn't, then service is GUARANTEED to degrade as Verizon just walks away from doing ANY upgrades or spending any REAL money on maintenance.

But prices will go up and some union drones will lose their jobs, because Fairpoint won't do what Verizon did - subsidize an area that was losing money thru higher rates in more profitable areas.


Matt_

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Vermont the First US E-State by 2010 ...what a joke

Jim Douglas Vermont's Governor wants Vermont to be the first US e-state by 2010 with this Fairpoint deal I think hes going to struggle to make that a reality especially with this Fairpoint deal is already looking doomed to fail .

»youtube.com/watch?v=IgxM50Awevc


Youtube video of Jim Douglas talking about his estate initaitive back in March .

ltt75

join:2001-01-22
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vote split

The vote was 7-6 for the deal. I am intersested in reading the decision notes from those 6 individuals that voted against it.


karlmarx

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Re: Broadband Deployment

Gee, you're in ohio. By your logic, that means you shouldn't help pay for the interstate highway in florida, I mean you'll never use it.

Business exists to serve the customer. If the customer happens to be a city or town or state, they have every right to REQUIRE certain features.

Of course, the reversal of the vote just goes to show you how corrupt all the officials are. I'm sure most of the 'voters' got a nice envelope filled with cash to 'reconsider' their vote. Cash from Verizon of course.
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wruckman
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exactly. Business exist to make money, not take federal, state, or local funding. They could always get a loan though. You never vote for tax dollars to go to private entities. They have no right to spend my hard earned dollars. Crooks.

probboy

join:2008-01-10
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Re: Deal has to go forward

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

This deal had to be approved. If it wasn't, then service is GUARANTEED to degrade as Verizon just walks away from doing ANY upgrades or spending any REAL money on maintenance.
They just can't walk away--landlines are a tariffed service. They might not invest in non-tariffed services (like DSL or FIOS), but they would have to meet minimum service standards for landlines. I'm not entirely sure what the penalties are for not meeting these standards, but I'd imagine that they might include seizing the assets and allowing another company to provide service.

The folks in Northern New England end up getting screwed while Verizon walks away from a boatload of debt. Once this gets approved, I'd imagine that Verizon tries something similar in western Massachusetts, central PA, etc.


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said by probboy See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

This deal had to be approved. If it wasn't, then service is GUARANTEED to degrade as Verizon just walks away from doing ANY upgrades or spending any REAL money on maintenance.
They just can't walk away--landlines are a tariffed service. I'm not entirely sure what the penalties are for not meeting these standards, but I'd imagine that they might include seizing the assets and allowing another company to provide service.
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TKJunkMail
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 Correction to BBR posted story

Last month Vermont regulators denied Verizon's $2.6 billion sale of their networks in New England to New Hampshire
Should be:

Fairpoint

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wifi4milez
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reply to karlmarx
Re: Broadband Deployment

said by karlmarx See Profile :

Gee, you're in ohio. By your logic, that means you shouldn't help pay for the interstate highway in florida, I mean you'll never use it.
As usual, you are comparing apples to kumquats. A business (which exists to make money), has absolutely nothing to do with a federal highway system.

said by karlmarx See Profile :

Business exists to serve the customer. If the customer happens to be a city or town or state, they have every right to REQUIRE certain features.
No, they have every right to request certain features. If the business determines it is unprofitable (or impossible) to provide that service then the customer is out of luck.

said by karlmarx See Profile :

Of course, the reversal of the vote just goes to show you how corrupt all the officials are. I'm sure most of the 'voters' got a nice envelope filled with cash to 'reconsider' their vote. Cash from Verizon of course.
Ha! Thats a funny one. While we are on the topic, I have a great bridge to sell you in this little place called Brooklyn.....
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Re: Correction to BBR posted story

source?


HowardTheDuck

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yyyeeeaaaaaghhhhh!

Land of Howard Dean?

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The scream heard around the world. And we're gonna put FIOS here and there, and over here and over there... and on the ski slopes, and in residential backyards, outhouses, and at the teddy bear factory, YEEEAAAAGHHH!!! Oh well, now it's Fairpoint's turn at the podium.
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