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Comments on news posted 2008-01-10 09:21:56: Network Solutions is under fire this week for domain "front running," or for purchasing and holding certain domains after they're searched for at the company's website, thereby not letting anyone buy the domain at other registrars. ..
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imanogre
join:2005-11-29
Mcdonough, GA
| An idea I wonder how long until someone writes a script that keeps checking their site for random addresses every couple of seconds. If this were to happen, eventually they would learn it's not cost effective to keep purchasing domain names that will never be purchased. | |
| | patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Re: An idea said by imanogre  :I wonder how long until someone writes a script that keeps checking their site for random addresses every couple of seconds. If this were to happen, eventually they would learn it's not cost effective to keep purchasing domain names that will never be purchased. Its probably free for Network Solutions, they are a registar. | |
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fireflier
Coffee. . .Need Coffee
Premium
join:2001-05-25
Limbo |  What happens after 5 days?
Of course, if they continue holding it, then I can see that as a problem. | |
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AnonProxy
Proxy of Anon
Premium
join:2001-05-12
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| Re: What happens after 5 days? It becomes availible after 5 days BUT it also alerts those who squat what domains people are interested in. It's a way for squatters to target domain names. And I have a feeling that was really the point in the first place.
They are not doing this to help legitimate companies looking for their domain name, they are trying to figure out a way to lure business from squatters and speculators. | |
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AnonProxy
Proxy of Anon
Premium
join:2001-05-12
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| Well there is an option If Internic is going to take months or years to figure out if this is a problem, I can show them pretty quick.
I can run a bulk registration check at netsol, and tie up almost every word combination domain names for 5 days at a time in about 3 days. Then I can just keep running it...and then when people can't get any domains except from NetSol, they will see that NetSol has devised a practice which can allow them to be a monopoly.
And that is really what this is about, creating an unfair advantage in a market. It is WELL outside the dweebness of ICANN and InterNIC, this is a trade violation with civil and criminal penalties. | |
| | patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Re: Well there is an option said by AnonProxy :If Internic is going to take months or years to figure out if this is a problem, I can show them pretty quick. I can run a bulk registration check at netsol, and tie up almost every word combination domain names for 5 days at a time in about 3 days. Then I can just keep running it...and then when people can't get any domains except from NetSol, they will see that NetSol has devised a practice which can allow them to be a monopoly. And that is really what this is about, creating an unfair advantage in a market. It is WELL outside the dweebness of ICANN and InterNIC, this is a trade violation with civil and criminal penalties. Write a bot that checks names made with a psudo-random-character-generator (think number generator but making characters instead), 1 computer at 2 per second (conservative number) can make 172800 addresses registered in one day, all garbage 
Some kind of Haxor alarm will go off, or Network Solutions will issue a PR story about a 1000x increase in potential customers, watch stock rise, then find out its fraud, and then watch it become a pink sheet. | |
| altidude
join:2002-12-26
Ventura, CA
| Coincidentally... Coincidentally, just yesterday I turned off auto-renew on the two domains I still have at Network Solutions. I'm moving the domains to a less expensive registrar a couple of months before they expire. NetSol has been OK for me, no problems at all, but why pay them $30/year when I can register the domain for $20 for two years. Makes no sense. | |
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DreamWraith
Premium
join:2004-04-07
Mount Vernon, WA
| lol... i didnt bother to RTFA, but on a whim, i went to godaddy. i typed in a domain name. it came up as available. them i went to yahoo domains, and checked there. still available. then i went to network solutions site. available. then i went to godaddy. as of 15 seconds after searching for it on networksolutions.com, the word had been put far and wide by network solutions that "networksolutionseatsgoatchease.com" was no longer available. | |
| L00ker
join:2007-01-18
| Sounds like ill informed users... Maybe they should search for the availability of a domain through a NON registrar (i.e. Internic.net) so this whole issue is avoided... then it's a non-issue...
Of course a registrar who has a user search for a domain squats on it! Thats how they attempt to ensure they get the sale... | |
| modemslayer
join:2003-12-11
Spokane, WA | Leave my hamsters alone! I was going to register a domain through them, but when I found out the terrible things they do to pets (network-solutions-sodomizes-hamsters.com), I changed my mind... | |
| dmoisan
join:2003-03-25
Salem, MA | What if Netsol combines this with DNS resolution? What if Netsol decides that wildcard queries (what they did a year ago) are enough to express "interest" in a domain. If I look for effyounetsol.com, and no name found, wouldn't Netsol decide, "ah, someone's interested in that domain, let's squat"> | |
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jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
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| thier response Dear xxxx xxxxxx,
Thank you for contacting Network Solutions Customer Service Department. We are committed to creating the best Customer experience possible. One of the first ways we can demonstrate our commitment to this goal is to quickly and efficiently handle your recent request.
Please be advised that Network Solutions are not "front running" domain names. We want to make sure that our customers do not lose the domain name to disreputable individuals (or entities) that snatch up domains after a domain search has been made. Network Solutions, along with many other registrars have received numerous customer complaints of domain names being registered by someone else, typically outside of the United States, just minutes or hours after someone else has conducted a domain name search at a registrar site, performed a WHOIS query, or typed a domain in the browser to see if there is an active Web site. The industry calls this practice domain name “Front Running.”
To thwart the efforts of these sneaky individuals, Network Solutions reserves unregistered domains for up to four days from the date they are searched on our Web site. This customer protection feature provides our customers the opportunity to register names at a later date without fear that the name will be registered by the “Front Runners.” If the domain you searched is available and one that you really want, we suggest that you register it immediately to ensure that you will not lose the name. This is not "front running" as we were only reserving domain names for four days, unlike "front runners" that actually registers the domain name permanently.
We hope this update has been helpful.
Please do not respond to this E-mail. If you have any additional questions, you can reach us via e-mail by completing our online form at »www.networksolutions.com/en_US/h···st.jhtml or by phone at 1-888-642-9675 and provide Service Request #1-321346207.
Thank you for choosing Network Solutions.
Sincerely,
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Network Solutions Technical Support Specialist
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| mbeckman
Premium
join:2004-09-06
Ventura, CA
| NSI destroys its own protection argument in WSJ article WSJ writer Chris Rhoades has a nice summary article in the Jan15 online edition:
»online.wsj.com/article/SB1200359···009.html
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In the article, Rhoades reports a telling statement from NSI about a change they’ve made in reaction to criticism of their name-seizing scam.
NSI says that it will make sure names held in reserve won’t be made public, a revelation that completely unhinges NSI’s argument for “protection”. If nobody can detect domain names searched through NSI (thanks to NSI’s curious “NOW they won’t be made public” fix), then searched names will be completely safe without holding. If, however, someone can detect domain names searched through NSI, then names run the same risk of front-running whether held or not, since NSI will cheerfully sell the name to anyone. | |
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dfb77sdsfh
@qwest.net
| you have to call them to get them to release the names as soon as they are released after you calling and complaining they should be availabale instantly
purchased 2 names this evening that way the fuckers tried to screw me but i to am gonna register all networksolutions names with rude remarks after they will then advertise to there own death register as many as you can blog about doing this and do all your seo work and they will advertise there death in hours we are the internet.................
take it back fair business practices.... | |
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