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Comments on news posted 2008-01-19 14:15:53: One of the biggest Mac news items circulating right now is the release of the MacBook Air, a super-thin ultra-light laptop that has many of the major features of a standard notebook. ..

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retrogame

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X Series is already close

The X series is already very close to the Macbook Air specs, I doubt it's going to take much retooling to shave off about .1 inches of thickness and .3 ounces (IIRC from the specs of the current X line)


Steimes
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Misssed the mark?

I am having trouble seeing the benifit of these two ultra thin computers. The foot print is still that of the same of other computers of the same screen size.

My MacBook is has the same foot print as the MacBook Air and is only about a half inch thicker, and 2 or so pounds heavier, plus it has all the ports I need.

I guess there is a market for these machines, but I personally don't see the fuss over it, the weight maybe, but add in the protective carrying case, and the power supply ect... you are in just about the same boat as a "thick" 1-2 inch computer...

Obviously I am not the target market for these machines Although I would take the ThinkPad over the MacBook Air, as it has more "features."
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If it has a built-in optical drive...

Then they missed the point of the Macbook Air altogether, considering the Macbook Air has features to access a host computer disc drive and easily transfer files from it via its docking station making it more of a PC companion then a ultra-thin notebook. Not to mention from some people the feel of owning what can be considered a giant iPod.

With that said though I believe this Thinkpad will be more then enough competition for the Sony TX, Fujitsu LifeBook S6500s and Toshiba Protege M600.


Anonymous
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Re: Misssed the mark?

I think this Air laptop is just a fad. Apple users will buy into it of course.

They almost always do.


odreian615

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reply to Dr Demento
Re: If it has a built-in optical drive...

So a optical drive is bad?!


Steimes
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Re: Misssed the mark?

said by Anonymous See Profile :

I think this Air laptop is just a fad. Apple users will buy into it of course.

They almost always do.
I'm not sure it is a fad, but I see it as the start of thin computing. Not to say that Apple is the first with an ultra thin, Sony had a production model just as thin, or just a smidgen thinner a few years ago. I just do not see the benefit of a somewhat crippled laptop, by number of ports, media drive, and expandability, when you essentially end up with the same over all size (by footprint) of a full feature laptop.

Although true ultra compacts, well poor sellers now, should take off as technology catches up.
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reply to odreian615
Re: If it has a built-in optical drive...

said by odreian615 See Profile :

So a optical drive is bad?!
Not at all in fact its great for all the reason you are probably thinking of such as easily installing software and listening to DVDs. But it also is a source for spent battery life and like disc based hardrives hamper it from being really man-handled without damage.

However, a notebook without one which doesn't have adequate syncing software is a lot worse off in usability.


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Re: Misssed the mark?

Yep, it's just a fad. That's why the masses are packing around the good old trusty motorola brick phone.


fatmanskinny
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ThinkPad T Series suck

My company deploy them and they are terrible laptops. I would rather do HP or Dell than Lenovo machines. Ugh!
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Re: Misssed the mark?

said by Anonymous See Profile :

I think this Air laptop is just a fad. Apple users will buy into it of course.

They almost always do.
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Heterman
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Re: ThinkPad T Series suck

Do they happen to be the T6x series?

IMO, the last good ones were the T4x series.


fatmanskinny
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Yup, the T6X series. They are a piece of crap. Some machines no more than one year old already had motherboards and hard drives replaced.
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said by fatmanskinny See Profile :

Yup, the T6X series. They are a piece of crap. Some machines no more than one year old already had motherboards and hard drives replaced.
Really? I've beat on my T60 for well over a year now without a single issue.


FiL
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reply to Dr Demento
Re: If it has a built-in optical drive...

Syncing software?

Whats the big deal with attaching a usb harddrive? They too come with synching software...

If theres no disc in the drive, the battery doesn't need to access the drive, so no battery life spent. The op drive is perfect for all the obvious reasons; if it breaks, you got yourself a cheaper MacAir...right?

Again, it would probably be easier to "synch" ya shit with usb drives then with software where your at the whim of your connection speed...either way, its not as if synching software blows usb 2.0 out the water.


FiL
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reply to Matt
Re: ThinkPad T Series suck

same, every think pad I've been on worked like a charm...i worked on p3 think pads running audio creation workstation proggies, worked like a charm.

Maybe ya'll got a bad batch...lol. Otherwise, I think the thinkpad is an excellent pc/laptop...

mike31mets

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Leaked X300 information, comparison to MacBook Air

»[Review] Leaked X300 information, comparison to MacBook Air

I posted a thread on this before this article was posted. Here is a comparison from that thread.

Physical dimensions
MBA: 8.9 in. D × 12.74 in. W × 0.16~0.76 in. H at 1.36 kg (3.0 lbs.)
X300: 12.5 in. D x 9 in. W x 0.73~0.92 in. H at 1.14~1.44 kg (2.5~3.17 lbs)

Volume
MBA: 18.142 in.^3 to 86.173 in.^3
X300: 82.125 in.^3 to 103.5 in.^3

Display
MBA: 13.3-inch glossy LED-backlit TFT LCD widescreen display, 1280×800 pixel resolution
X300: 13.3-inch 1440x900 LED-backlit display

Graphics
MBA: Intel GMA X3100 graphics processor with 144 MB of DDR2 SDRAM shared with main memory
X300: no information

Storage
MBA: 80 GB ATA hard disk drive or 64 GB SSD optional
X300: 64GB SSD

Processor
MBA: 1.6 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Merom, with 800 MHz FSB or 1.8 GHz Core 2 Duo optional
X300: Merom-based 2.0GHz "Dual Core Hybrid LV" processor with a 12W thermal envelope

Memory
MBA: 2 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM soldered to the logicboard X300: 2 DIMM slots for a maximum of 4GB of DDR2 memory

Wireless networking
MBA: Integrated AirPort Extreme supports 802.11a/b/g/draft n X300: 802.11n, Verizon EV-DO Rev A, Cingular HSDPA and WiMAX options

Wired Ethernet
MBA: none, Optional USB Ethernet Adapter
X300: Ethernet included

Optical storage
MBA: None, Optional External USB SuperDrive
X300: DVD Burner included

Camera
MBA: Built-in iSight, 640×480 pixel resolution
X300: Webcam included, specs not known

Battery
MBA: 37 W-Hr Lithium-ion polymer battery, 5 hours estimated run-time
X300: 3-cell, 6-cell, and 9-cell batteries to be used, No estimated run-time as of yet

Bluetooth
MBA: Built-in (2.1+Enhanced Data Rate)
X300: Bluetooth included

Port connections and Misc. items
MBA: 1× USB 2.0, 1× Micro-DVI video port (adapters are included for VGA or DVI monitors up to 1920×1200 pixels), 1× Audio out (3.5 mm stereo jack)
X300: 3x USB 2.0, 3x internal PCI-E slots, 1x Firewire, 1x DisplayPort, 1x GbE, 1x ExpressCard slot, 1× Audio out (3.5 mm stereo jack), 4-in-1 card reader, and Fingerprint reader

Audio
MBA: 1× microphone, 1× mono loudspeaker, External speakers must be plugged in for stereo.
X300: 1x Microphone, 1× Headphone

Keyboard
MBA: Backlit full-size keyboard with ambient light sensor
X300: Full keyboard

Trackpad
MBA: Supports multi-touch gestures
X300: Touchpad and Trackpoint inputs


dcsos

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This windows machine could never be like the Mac Air Book

This windows machine could never be like the Mac Air Book
The Windows machine would have to include a DVD or optical drive because the ability to engineer the use of another nearby computers'optical drive would not be implementable in windows software.
Because windows machines vary in hardware, the number of subroutines to allow for the thousands of kinds of drives the LENOVO may encounter is guarenteed to be buggy.

On the other hand, controlling the hardware, Apple can do without the optical drive and use a nearby MAC's optical drive
reliably.
This is the difference between the systems


ninjatutle
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More like an intentional leak

looks like Lenovo didn't want apple to take all the glory.


Quentin
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reply to mike31mets
Re: Leaked X300 information, comparison to MacBook Air

With specs like that, I'd take the X300 over the MacBook Air any day.

Built in Optical Drive, upgradable to twice as much memory, REPLACABLE BATTERY, more expandability (including 3x more USB ports, Firewire, Gigabit Ethernet, and Fingerprint Reader) Plus faster processor..

Now the only thing I wonder is how much it costs compared to MBA. :P Especially since it comes standard with the SSD Hard Drive
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Re: Misssed the mark?

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said by Anonymous See Profile :

I think this Air laptop is just a fad. Apple users will buy into it of course.

They almost always do.
Apple Fanboys and Fangirls would buy Steve Job's excrement if it looked cool.
You mean it doesn't? I'll be damned.

A website leaked that it's wrapped like a Cuban with a bite out of one side and glows in the dark
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