KeepOnRockin
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join:2002-11-08
Beaverton, OR
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| Not For Me
I'm no state employee; but I'd find it challenging to telecommute.
In the office is the only place, it seems I can get any actual work done. I would need a lot more disclipline to "work from home"  |
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PolarBear
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join:2005-01-03
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| Contradiction
Lawmakers have also suggested that a state office be created to promote telework... So basically they want to create an office for people to come to work on having people stay home to work.
Yes, I'm sure that this new "office" will be staffed by telecommuters as well, but consider the underlying premise: they are going to PAY a group of people to oversee a form of saving money.
Yeah. Did you get the memo? Yeah, I'll fax you that memo again. And, yeah, we're gonna need you to come in on Saturday. Yeah, thanks.
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raye
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join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA | and at&t recalling its telecommuters
government becoming more productive, business becoming less productive? If the world ending???
remember, at&t/sbc/pacbell is the company that inspired te Dilbert cartoon  |
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pnh102
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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| Telecommuting Not All Good...
Personally, I find that I cannot do "work work" at home... there are just too many distractions.
But my main reason for not liking telecommuting is that if you can do your job from outside the office, then that means that someone else in a 3rd world country can also do your job from outside the office for 10 cents an hour.
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PolarBear
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| Good Idea, depending on circumstances
When I did DirecTV installs, although of course the main function of the job was DRIVING to customer's homes to do the actual work, I was 200 miles from the office I worked out of. So they would ship me equipment once a week, and we handled everything else via email or phone.
Worked great for them, as it simply didn't make sense to have a physical office/warehouse in my area, as it wasn't busy enough. Worked great for me, too, as I never had to make extra trips to the office every day (just once a month), never had to see my bosses, and didn't have to worry about getting enough equipment every day (they issued equipment daily to local installers, but shipped me a pallet of stuff once a week to my home).
Really, it made my work life much simpler. And they gave me a stipend for my internet and phone service, since I was using it for work purposes.
Assuming many of the state jobs are in or near the state capitol, this will also allow people to live where they want to live (i.e. rural areas, or other side of the state, etc.), but still have the job they want, also. It can literally give people the best of both worlds in regards to location and career. Also, the less gas consumption, vehicle wear and tear, necessary office space, and traffic congestion will save the employer money, the employee money, and the environment.
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stevek1949
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join:2002-11-13
Virginia Beach, VA
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2 edits | This is for HOUSE BILL NO. 1021, which states
B. The head of each agency shall set annual percentage targets for the number of positions eligible for alternative work schedules. By July 1, 2009, each state agency shall have a goal of not less than 25 percent of its eligible workforce participating in alternative work schedules. By January 1, 2010, each state agency shall have a goal of not less than 20 percent of its eligible workforce telecommuting.
I work for a local school system that gives me remote access, but does not allow telecommuting, except for rare circumstances. Basically, I find it too distracting at home and most always do not have the resources that I need locally.
I am betting that this bill will be killed in comittee. It sets a "goal" not a requirement. There's a big loophole. My goal is to be a millionaire by 2008. It's not realistic, but it's a goal. |
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FrostyMelon
join:2006-02-06
Colorado Springs, CO
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| Luv it!
I am home office based, and love it. It's much easier for me to get things done, and how I go about planning things. The only downside is the whole social interaction you get from an office, but since I work for a large tech company with a large office locally...I can just slip in and bother folks every once in awhile. |
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raythompsontn
join:2001-01-11
Oliver Springs, TN
| State Employees Working from Home
Oh, that will be great!
You have state office workers, probably the second laziest workers around (federal is first), allowed to work from home. Let's see how productive they become. Expect the work output to drop by 20% to account for the 20% working at home.
Sending government workers, city, state, or federal, home to work is like give the fox the keys to the chicken house. |
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jr92gp
join:2001-09-14
Richmond, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| Ever wonder why they are lazy? People with your mentality make the decisions on how much to pay. How could it ever be possible to keep a hard-working engineer employed at a state agency when they can make two times as much working in industry? Money talks and it says that state agencies will get what they pay for. |
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Hellrazor
join:2002-02-02
Abyss
| said by jr92gp  :Ever wonder why they are lazy? People with your mentality make the decisions on how much to pay. How could it ever be possible to keep a hard-working engineer employed at a state agency when they can make two times as much working in industry? Money talks and it says that state agencies will get what they pay for. Nah... lets do this like a true worker:
Job 1 - Do as little as possible, receive decent pay and guarenteed benefits. You know the place will not close.
Job 2 - A real job, with a real work load, with real expectations, with the possibility of being fired and the place could close at any time. But you are making more money...
A lot of people will take #1. |
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DreamWraith
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join:2004-04-07
Mount Vernon, WA
| reply to pnh102
Re: Telecommuting Not All Good...
said by KeepOnRockin :I'm no state employee; but I'd find it challenging to telecommute. In the office is the only place, it seems I can get any actual work done. I would need a lot more disclipline to "work from home" said by pnh102 :Personally, I find that I cannot do "work work" at home... there are just too many distractions. But my main reason for not liking telecommuting is that if you can do your job from outside the office, then that means that someone else in a 3rd world country can also do your job from outside the office for 10 cents an hour. Perhaps that is your own fault. Anyone in their proper state of mind in this regard, and any company with a good telework policy knows that in order to be a productive teleworker one must actually have a secluded, seperate office in their home. In other words, you simply need a seperate room in your home, with a seperate, work computer, with a door, that can close, and lock, and if there is family in the home, they need to have it made clear to them that, when the door is locked, they need to sod off.
Teleworking isn't about being home to take care of the kids while you work. It is about being in a more comfortable environment (you can lunch in your living room), and, more importantly for the business, about saving. Savings on electricity, and, most importantly, floor space. |
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nutcr0cker
join:2003-04-02
Chandler, AZ
| Great news
This indeed great news. I believe if the telecommuting works good the next evolutionary step to telecommuting shold be outsourcing those jobs to get cheaper labor. The tax payers would save a load of money. Americans should not be doing shuch menial jobs that require telecommuting |
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Greg_Z
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join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL
·Comcast
| Would work
I have been hinting at this with our office, due to with a Virtual office, which most W @ home companies are doing now, it would not be hard. I have already got the connection, phoneset, and everything needed to take calls at home. Plus no co-worker distractions.
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garmst
join:2000-09-17
New York, NY
·Speakeasy
| Would I go to their house?
What if they work for Motor Vehicles? Would I go to their house to drop off my application for a license? Would they process it while I was waiting outside in my car? Can they fingerprint and photograph me and give me a license while I wait?
What if the baby cries, do I get priority? |
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Greg_Z
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join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL
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| reply to raythompsontn
Re: State Employees Working from Home
Come sit in at my Agency. Due to the Gov. cutting back on the workforce, we are doing the work of 3 people in some units, and our unit is understaffed by 20 people. You are contantly busy, so there is no downtime to just be lazy.
Matter of fact, if our agency was full of lazy people, we would not be getting equipment and Call Center upgrades to make our jobs even more productive. |
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Greg_Z
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join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL
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| reply to garmst
Re: Would I go to their house?
You would still have to go to the agency location to handle your affairs. What states are looking at, is moving production work that is normally handled in the office (ie phone CSR's, and management) out of the office.
We have been joking that our managers are going to be getting Blackberry's soon so that upper management can utilize them more, as in lower management. |
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marigolds
Gainfully employed, finally
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join:2002-05-13
Saint Louis, MO
| reply to Hellrazor
Re: State Employees Working from Home
You left one element out from Job 1.
Significantly higher probability of being sued and compelled to testify in your own defense but not allowed to place your own defense.
Some government jobs have nice security, but any decently playing government job has workplace pressures way out of line with similar pay private security jobs due to the public accountability aspects. And your salary gets published in the paper.
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AnonProxy
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ß | Buhahaha
If you thought state productivity was at an all time low, just let them telecommute...those slackers will come up with new ways to slack off. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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| reply to DreamWraith
Re: Telecommuting Not All Good...
said by DreamWraith :... and, more importantly for the business, about saving. Savings on electricity, and, most importantly, floor space. Especially when the business saves a ton of money by outsourcing the jobs telecommuters do to third world countries.
said by DreamWraith :In other words, you simply need a seperate room in your home ... I suppose at that point, a padded room would be quite handy.
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raythompsontn
join:2001-01-11
Oliver Springs, TN
| reply to jr92gp
Re: State Employees Working from Home
said by jr92gp :Ever wonder why they are lazy? No. It is obvious from watching them work. There is no incentive to do any better. It is not like you can go somewhere else as there is no competition.said by jr92gp :People with your mentality make the decisions on how much to pay. Wrong. I had nothing to do with it. I voted to keep the idiots that established the last pay structure out of office. But somehow they kept themselves in office.said by jr92gp :How could it ever be possible to keep a hard-working engineer employed at a state agency when they can make two times as much working in industry? For doing half as much work, with a retirement that is second to none it is easy to keep the employees.said by jr92gp :Money talks and it says that state agencies will get what they pay for. So what you are saying is that the pay is so bad the state gets the worst employees. I would go further and say that many of the state employess are so incompetent that they cannot get jobs elsewhere. The state job is a form of welfare. And their attitude when dealing with the public certainly reflects their incompetence. |
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