Lee GWB
Yaco
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join:2001-10-13
Allendale, NJ
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Good to know
Hi,
I was worried with my 20/20 connection. While I do not use file sharing that much, I do have 6 pcs/laptops going at one time. I believe some users would be crippled with the TW plan.
When I used CompuServe, PC link,Prodigy BB-S's back in the day I dreaded opening my phone bill for the per min. charges. :P
\Lee
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RX8
join:2004-07-18
Marietta, GA | No surprise..
..Just to see if they can get away with it---why not jump on the bandwagon  |
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gatorkram
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join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
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| Right on the nose
This writeup didn't leave anything out that needed to be said. Consider this just a thumbs up to the whole thing...
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Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
 ·Cox HSI
 ·Verizon FIOS
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2 edits | Next round of web-hog ads in the works
I'm sure the telco ad departments are already planning their next round of advertising.
There is no way they would let these caps go by without tearing into them.
But in fairness to the cable operators, the costs of delivering service are far more than just the cost of the OC192 at the headend. Cable operators have a per channel limitation that is only address by dedicating more channels to HSI and/or limiting the use of the existing service.
So those 100GB for $30 numbers don't seem entirely accurate to me given the other factors involved in delivering the service to the customer.
But that doesn't justify 5-40GB caps unless the service is $10. |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
| Blowback awaits any ISP that implements this
so after all the hemming & hawing about keeping the net neutral, we're all going to end up paying through the nose anyway for bandwidth because providers won't pony up and upgrade their infrastructure. We are essentially reverting back to the AOhell days of a price plan that charges online time per minute, only this time it's bandwidth. |
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bobjohnson
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join:2007-02-03
Titusville, FL | Why
Why would any company think that caps on cable usage isnt gonna scare new and current customers away... This is one of the only reasons i would agree with booting the people who use way to much |
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short09
join:2006-07-21 | heres a simple plan that they could implement
it would be easier imo to charge $1 for every 10 gb of bandwith used up. so it would be $10 for 100gb $20 for 200gb and so on. people who just use the net to email would be charged the least |
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Wraith1283
join:2002-11-30
West Hempstead, NY
| reply to Dogfather
Re: Next round of web-hog ads in the works
This definitely isn't good news. I in no way want to see metered bandwidth unless its something that is reasonable. I am glad I am on FiOS as it looks like Verizon doesnt have a plan to enforce these kind of caps on people.
Dont get me wrong I believe people who abuse the network of their cable co. should have to pay more than the average downloader/web surfer but to enforce these rules on everyone simply is BS.
What about people who are avid gamers? To download demos sometimes takes about a gig or two. Not to mention downloading patches for a game and simply playing it takes up bandwidth. You can eat up a lot of Bandwidth quick without being one of these P2P "abusing" people.
It just seems like an excuse for the cable co. to get more money out our pockets. |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
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Re: heres a simple plan that they could implement
said by short09  :it would be easier imo to charge $1 for every 10 gb of bandwith used up. so it would be $10 for 100gb $20 for 200gb and so on. people who just use the net to email would be charged the least Because those prices don't cater to the real reason behind caps and charging for bandwidth. Providers can dance around it all they want and throw up all the smoke screens they want ("network management" et al.) but quite simply, it all boils down to and is exclusively motivated by ::GREED:: moreso than anything else.
Your proposed prices don't sufficiently ::GOUGE:: the consumer in the manner the providers would like to. |
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MarkyD
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join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs: | idiots.
If Cox does indeed adopt this, I'll find someone else to provide my service. I won't stand for something like this.
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iLive4Apple
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join:2006-07-13
Helena, AL | Way to go Verizon /Sarcasm
Your FIOS and DSL might not have caps but you really shouldn't be the ones to talk with your 5 GB wireless EVDO caps.
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pabster
join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA | Good point.  |
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ztmike
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join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN
·Comcast
| damn comcast
lol, GO VERIZON!
I'm already thinking about going back to dsl..but then atat is trying to filter the internet..man wish Verizon had services in Michigan City..and not in the next town over which is like 10 miles..bah!
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morbo
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join:2002-01-22
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Re: heres a simple plan that they could implement
yes, but that assumes cableco would give the lowest users a price decrease. something that just won't happen. however, they are happy to increase rates for everyone... |
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Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
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| reply to Wraith1283
Re: Next round of web-hog ads in the works
There is simply no way that they can make these caps stick in a competitive market if for no other reason than the counter-advertising the telcos could use.
I believe that TWC is throwing the blood in the water to see what happens. I don't think they're very serious about it.
But if they are, I am also in a Verizon FiOS area and I'm sure Verizon wouldn't mind getting my triple play dollars 'cause if I give up HSI with TWC might as well pitch CATV and Digital Phone as well. |
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Jodokast96
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join:2005-11-23
Erial, NJ
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to iLive4Apple
Re: Way to go Verizon /Sarcasm
said by iLive4Apple :Your FIOS and DSL might not have caps but you really shouldn't be the ones to talk with your 5 GB wireless EVDO caps. Which, despite the name, are two totally different and independent companies. |
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guppy_fish
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join:2003-12-09
Lakeland, FL
·Verizon FIOS
| Verizon doesn't pay for bandwidth
Verizon, being one of the 5 main tier one internet providers doesn't pay others for bandwidth, unlike the cable company's that do. So they can provide literally unlimited bandwidth if they want with no added cost, a real cost and marketing benefit.
Verizon of course has to keep up with capacity, but going 100% fiber and being paid by other is very different that what the cable company's have to pay for.
I also see streaming video has a threat to cable, as VOIP is to POTS ... what goes around, comes around |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to Dogfather
Re: Next round of web-hog ads in the works
said by Dogfather :But in fairness to the cable operators, the costs of delivering service are far more than just the cost of the OC192 at the headend. Cable operators have a per channel limitation that is only address by dedicating more channels to HSI and/or limiting the use of the existing service. So those 100GB for $30 numbers don't seem entirely accurate to me given the other factors involved in delivering the service to the customer. Exactly just because 500 GB of bandwidth only cost the cable companies $35 doesn't mean that's the only cost associated with providing someone with internet service.
Some bandwidth hogs woud complain if the cap was 1 TB a month. They seem to think for their $40-$70 they should get all the bandwith they want. |
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Dagda1175
join:2001-06-17
Goleta, CA | Switch to who?
If they're all doing it. Complaining isnt going to get very far. Go to dsl? ugh. far slower than cable in most places I've seen. |
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wruckman
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join:2007-10-25
Northwood, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | Good Job
Awesome, Verizon or not, I love the fact that they totally plan to make money off not charging for metered bandwidth while other companies are gonna become a joke and go out of business!
Broadband is the future of TV and they are scared shitless. |
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