ironweasel
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join:2000-09-13
Belen, NM
1 edit | Awaiting the French version of ChexSystems for ISP's.
Chexsystems, for those of you unfamiliar with it, is similar to the big 3 credit reporting agencies.
What I'm waiting for is some sort of national database that France will use to keep track of these "three strikes pirates" .
You rack up "three strikes" with one ISP, your name goes into the database, and when you apply for service with another ISP, they in turn check the database to see if you're on the naughty list.
Any bets how long it takes for someone in this country to jump on the bandwagon?
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
 ·Site5.com
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| Well, with all the crap that is being produced....
Why worry about it? After all, the RIAA, MPAA, and various software makers only put out crap anyway. The music these days suck horribly, everything coming out on DVD blows hard, and the software isn't worth paying for. Pirates aren't downloading things like this that suck anyway, right? I mean, if it sucks that bad, why spend your time downloading it?
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
| said by Nightfall  :Why worry about it? After all, the RIAA, MPAA, and various software makers only put out crap anyway. The music these days suck horribly, everything coming out on DVD blows hard, and the software isn't worth paying for. Pirates aren't downloading things like this that suck anyway, right? I mean, if it sucks that bad, why spend your time downloading it? Don't be so intellectually dishonest - that's not the sole reason people download. DRM accounts for the downloading cited by folk who would normally purchase content but the DRM restrictions. |
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jgkolt
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs: | thats no longer a issue with amazon's mp3's |
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Stumbles
join:2002-12-17
Port Saint Lucie, FL
| reply to ironweasel
Re: Awaiting the French version of ChexSystems for ISP's.
Lol.... man I can just envision spammers drooling at the mouth over this one. I don't think the French government realizes just what can of worms they are about to open.
I can see it now, spammers targeting specific IPs with all sorts of laden emails telling people what they need do. |
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someone2
@pacbell.net
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Re: Well, with all the crap that is being produced....
More for a lack of choices of unrestricted, quality, content.
If these "pirates" who downloaded Mp3s actually had drm-free choices back several years ago when P2P "took off" in the late 90s, then there may not be so many "pirates" today.
I believe some people pirate just to download the individual music they want and to transfer it to their own portable devices without restrictions. |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
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said by jgkolt :thats no longer a issue with amazon's mp3's It is as along as Amazon's collection is as limited as it is currently. |
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Surfinusa
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join:2001-02-08
|  Sounds nicer than taking people to court
I like the alternative for the ignorant illegal downloader who didn't know it was illegal.
But for all those who download knowning its illegal, that sounds like a break for them.
As oposed to what they are doing in the US taking people to court or pay us off and we will forget what you did for now but reserve the right for the artists to still sue you if they want. |
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jc100
join:2002-04-10
2 edits | reply to Stumbles
Re: Awaiting the French version of ChexSystems for ISP's.
Well lucky the idiot in this country doesn't have much longer (U.S.) but hell we could get worse, who knows. That said, a national DB is a hackers, identity theft, etc wet dream. Hell, look at how many laptops, HDDS, and systems have been lost or compromised in the U.S. alone. This data allows for someone to rip off that person's identity, steal their credit, or spend away on their accounts. Whomever advocates for any national system needs to be wacked across the head so common sense can enter. Sadly, people are all too willing to give up freedoms these days with grand promises that never pan out or originate from fear alone. In this case, to pander to the lobbyists whose agendas are a bit off mark. |
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swhx7
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join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
·RoadRunner Cable
| Is there any "due process"?
Yes I know this is an American phrase (from the U.S. Constitution), but the concept is universal. Is it purely based on the say-so of this agency, or is some proof or evidence required?
According to previous articles the organization that will monitor internet traffic and identify people has some connection with the copyright cartel - clearly a conflict of interest. If there is no standard of evidence, no independent review, then this is an invitation to abuse. |
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
·Site5.com
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Re: Well, with all the crap that is being produced....
said by SilverSurfer :said by Nightfall :Why worry about it? After all, the RIAA, MPAA, and various software makers only put out crap anyway. The music these days suck horribly, everything coming out on DVD blows hard, and the software isn't worth paying for. Pirates aren't downloading things like this that suck anyway, right? I mean, if it sucks that bad, why spend your time downloading it? Don't be so intellectually dishonest - that's not the sole reason people download. DRM accounts for the downloading cited by folk who would normally purchase content but the DRM restrictions. Don't be so naive. DRM doesn't account for people who are just too cheap to pay for the product. |
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NoRebatesPlease
@xo.net
| No sense...
This makes no sense.
Piracy and torrents generate traffic. ISPs get their rates based on traffic. Without illegal traffic, spam, junkmail, etc, ISPs would lose current rates, increasing costs to others.
Either something else (video, gaming, streaming...) has to keep the traffic-rate model, or this will fail.
Three strikes. How unoriginal. |
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
·Site5.com
·AT&T Midwest
·Comcast
| reply to someone2
Re: Well, with all the crap that is being produced....
said by someone2 :
More for a lack of choices of unrestricted, quality, content.
If these "pirates" who downloaded Mp3s actually had drm-free choices back several years ago when P2P "took off" in the late 90s, then there may not be so many "pirates" today.
I believe some people pirate just to download the individual music they want and to transfer it to their own portable devices without restrictions.
DRM is a killer thats for sure. However, I believe some people pirate just so they don't have to pay for something they want. I know a lot of people who fall into this category. A lot more than the people who hate DRM, but I am sure that varies from person to person. |
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jgkolt
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs: | music is basically good marketing material. |
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ossito16
join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN
·RCN CABLE
| punishing the wrong people
since when did downloading music, videos, and files become illegal. People are not hacking into password protected sites to get stuff. Why don't they worry about people sneaking DVD screeners, video recording movies, and promo CDs. I see it like this, if the bank left the doors and vaults open when they closed with no security what do you think will happen? Sure we know we should not take something that doesn't belong to us but if it is there, oh well. When sites are no longer available to download from then the fun will be over. Go ahead and take away people's access to broadband then see what the telco/cable companies do. That could be a lot of lost revenue. |
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mikenolan7
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join:2005-06-07
Torrance, CA | Three Strikes
This story must be bogus. The French would never adopt an American saying like three strikes and you're out. Freedom Fries anyone? |
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SLD
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join:2002-04-17
·Comcast
| reply to ossito16
Re: punishing the wrong people
I'm thinking that with all of the corporate corruption against people, maybe stealing music is a form of payback. The RIAA doesn't make people *want* to be honest, and I personally don't feel much sympathy for any large corporate entities who get taken for a ride these days. Mostly they are ripping off consumers on various levels anyway. |
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mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
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join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY | reply to jgkolt
Re: Well, with all the crap that is being produced....
We can also blame record companies for giving artists a deadline which is usually the fault of most music out on big labels these days. |
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DataDoc
My avatar looks like me, if I was 2D.
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join:2000-05-14
Greenville, NC | reply to mikenolan7
Re: Three Strikes
Of course not, they said something like "Trois coups et vous êtes hors".  |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
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Re: Well, with all the crap that is being produced....
said by Nightfall :Don't be so naive. DRM doesn't account for people who are just too cheap to pay for the product. I never said it did. What I did say was that you failed to notice that just as many download for DRM restrictions as do for the cheapness factor. I know far more many downloaders who would pay for the content but for DRM, and, in many instances, availability. Case in point: How many band's material is out of print? Not like you can head over to Amazon.com's newly DRM free content to download Question Mark & the Mysterians or any other for-pay content site, for that matter. But if you hop on Limewire et al. you can find out-of-print bands quite easily.
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