 gatorkramNeed for SpeedPremium
join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
kudos:2 | Nice news It's great to see all this news about higher speeds over copper.
The thing that sucks of course, is if, like myself, you are stuck in a non-competitive area, where it doesn't really matter what speeds they could be offering.
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| Additional Plant Req'd The attached links seem to indicate that RTs will be req'd for this, so it will take a significant effort to deploy this in the wild. This might be appealing to someone like Quest, who has no other next-gen plant improvements planned, and maybe some smaller ILECs. However, I don't see the bigger ILECs being able to use this.
Does anyone know if this is supposed to work over single pairs, or is bonding necessary? |
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 WeSRT4
join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL | Impressive for copper, but.... Just wait until companies start researching how to push fiber to new limits via new standards. Verizon is doing the right thing by deploying FTTH. In the future Verizon will profit while the Empire will be forced to continue to build out yet again. |
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 tobyTroy Mcclure
join:2001-11-13
Seattle, WA | Qwest must about these reports Qwest must about these reports, as it doesn't matter what speed you can get from the DSLAM if they don't have more than a couple of T1s to them. |
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Re: Impressive for copper, but.... Verizon isn't doing squat to deliver broadband in my area. I've been waiting for DSL since 1997! As far as Verizons future,They'll go bankrupt before I get any broadband offerings.
Verizon is nothing more than a lame chicken shit phone company that can't ever service their existing infrastructure. |
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 jmn1207Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA
kudos:1 | reply to WeSRT4
said by WeSRT4:Just wait until companies start researching how to push fiber to new limits via new standards. Verizon is doing the right thing by deploying FTTH. In the future Verizon will profit while the Empire will be forced to continue to build out yet again. Start? They already have and do research as it has been around for quite some time and used extensively. It's only recently been made available directly to the homes. If we had the patience and wisdom to spend more money on a completely wireless solution, we would not have to rely on any cable for transmission. But we are years away from this level of advanced technology. Someday. |
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Re: Nice news I would be glad to have something beside charter that will run over 700k down. I am too far out for anything faster. Maybe wimax will come (I can see a tower from my house) and leave in a good populated afluent area. FIOS will come though.. FIOS will come... only a town away. |
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Re: Impressive for copper, but.... wait what made ma bell the people to root for? ITs obvious that eventuaslly they will be back to their own practices. Cable will switch to all fiber when its cheaper to do so . |
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said by Ream0 :
Verizon isn't doing squat to deliver broadband in my area. I've been waiting for DSL since 1997! As far as Verizons future,They'll go bankrupt before I get any broadband offerings.
Verizon is nothing more than a lame chicken shit phone company that can't ever service their existing infrastructure.
verzion is doing better than ex bellsouth AT&t now. |
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 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | Not that big an improvement This is nice, but it's not quite as big an improvement as they state, as they're understating the capabilities of existing technologies. ADSL2+ should do about 19mbit at 6000 feet, and their tech supposedly does 26mbit.
That's an improvement, yes, but they're claiming "existing technologies" do 15mbit at 5500 feet, when it's closer to 20mbit with ADSL2+ in reality. |
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GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | reply to myokitis
Re: Additional Plant Req'd If Bell can sprinkle ADSL2+ remote DSLAMs everywhere, why not? |
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| Is AT&T an investor? The company's draft Release 1.0 of the Internet Protocol Subscriber Line' specification calls for a semiconductor to drive data at fiber-like speeds over the existing copper telephone lines. ROFLMAO! Fiber-like speeds? Fiber can do those speeds on a BAD day. |
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| Cool but is it spectrally compatible with DSLs I don't believe this speed reflects a real world deployment since it is not standardized and not spectrally compatible with DSLs. If this technology is not spectrally compatible with T1.417 you can forget about it being deployed by any Telcos and/or co-locators. Maybe for intrabuilding networks but you know what happend to Cisco's LRE....  |
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Re: Additional Plant Req'd Everything needs RTs. It's the reason why Mesa cabinets have been in huge demand for a decade or so.
This will probably never fly for the telcos as they've already made their decision and the incremental increase may not justify it. |
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Re: Impressive for copper, but.... Oh really now? Considering Bellsouth pushed more fiber out than Verizon did (they just stopped before the house) and had more remote solutions and DSL availability than just about anyone else...what makes you say that? |
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 RadioDocYeah, like it matters.Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
La Grange, IL
kudos:2 | reply to Guspaz
Re: Not that big an improvement Pretty sure VDSL2 can blow the doors off of 26 megabits at that distance, too.
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| peddle elsewhere Go peddle these too little too late dsl solutions elsewhere.. maybe go back in time to 1996 where you might be a new technology hit. |
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 PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium
join:2005-01-03 | reply to toby
Re: Qwest must about these reports Qwest must [what] about these reports?
As Lewis Black once said, "verbs eluded him." |
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PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium
join:2005-01-03 | reply to tmc8080
Re: peddle elsewhere Hey, it's the new ISDN! |
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| where's my copper spool? Maybe, just maybe, if I actually string a wire from my nearest CO to my house, and pull it nice and taut with a winch, I might get just under 5.5KF.
Nope. About 15KF too far, still. Thanks, though. |
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