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Comments on news posted 2008-02-01 16:11:03: The FCC plans for 2008 to be a year that’s focused on rural broadband development. ..

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woody7
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pffftttt.....

I thought this was supposed to be happening/ an ongoing thing already. I guess we have know what the definition of "focus" is
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Dominokat
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Why do we need this?

Didn't the Bush administration just say they reached their goal of Broadband for everyone? (See: »NTIA Says Bush Has Met Broadband Goals )
If they did, (and we all know they didn't) then why do we need these workshops and such to "assist communities in finding solutions to meeting their broadband needs???

Even if they do this, it isn't going to amount to anything. Nothing will change. Its just PR becasue they have been getting allot or rap about thier policies for rural areas.

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Maxo
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justin See Profile should just solicit the Feds to have their site redirect here. No since in recreating the wheel.


Chiyo
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200 k to the cows!

200k is all they'll need according to the goverment "that's broadband"

Guess the cows will be happy maybe they'll join DSLR and be in tha colla!
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naturalguy

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rural broadband

What I want to know what happened to the 200 billion dollars that the phone companies were supposed to build a nationwide fiber to the home network??????????????????????????????????????


CylonRed
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What does the Dept of Agriculture have anything

to do with broadband? All folks in rural areas are only farmers? Am I missing something obvious (or not so obvious)?
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MrMoody
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reply to woody7
Re: pffftttt.....

"Focus" = Election year P.R.


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reply to CylonRed
Re: What does the Dept of Agriculture have anything

said by CylonRed See Profile :

to do with broadband? All folks in rural areas are only farmers? Am I missing something obvious (or not so obvious)?
Yes! You are. Rural is not the farmlands when it comes to broadband. Just 1 mile down the road (with-in alot of cities) their is no broadband (satellite don't count).


N O Y B
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reply to Chiyo
Re: 200 k to the cows!

One of the rural places I visit frequently only has 256/256 kbps QWest. It is decent so long as not doing massive upload/download. I have uploaded multi-gigabyte videos from there before though. Works fine so long as you're in no hurry, but at least can still browse, email, IM, etc. while waiting.

Would like more bandwidth there but not willing to spend the money. Even the 256/256 kbps QWest carries a huge premium, $25 with no email etc. just basic internet connection and modem extra $$$, compared to what 768/128 kbps would be in my local Verizon market, $18 including 9 email accounts, 10MB web space and modem included.

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reply to CylonRed
Re: What does the Dept of Agriculture have anything

said by CylonRed See Profile :

to do with broadband? All folks in rural areas are only farmers? Am I missing something obvious (or not so obvious)?
You missing the fact that you don't make money and get tax breaks for mowing your lawn. You aren't suffering and trying to get by with that money you don't make off of mowing you lawn. You don't use your brand new {current year} pickup truck to haul the product from mowing your lawn to the market where you hope to get enough money to squeak by and purchase next years pickup truck...

Ok, I think you get the idea.

Dept. Of Ag is big business. Family farm (a real one) or you living in a nice place? not so much.

ossito16

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Rural, for what?

the "focus" needs to be low income, middle class, blue collar neighborhoods. These areas are the most difficult to get service. The areas are densely packed and people can't or won't pay for overpriced premium services i.e. Triple play comcast. They know that there low capacity lines won't hold.

devnuller

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reply to Chiyo
Re: 200 k to the cows!

said by Chiyo See Profile :

200k is all they'll need according to the goverment "that's broadband"
Not everyone needs to download their girlfriend


tad2020

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reply to woody7
Re: pffftttt.....

Yeah, it means go out a do it yourself and hope your ILEC doesn't screw your plans too badly along the way.

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Transmaster
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You have to understand

Focus is an eastern sea board accented phonetic spelling of F**k Us, and that is what is happing here we are being screwed.
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Chiyo
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reply to devnuller
Re: 200 k to the cows!

said by devnuller See Profile :

said by Chiyo See Profile :

200k is all they'll need according to the goverment "that's broadband"
Not everyone needs to download their girlfriend
you know just because she's a robot doesn't mean she doesn't have feelings!!!!

*runs and cries*


CylonRed
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reply to stomp357
Re: What does the Dept of Agriculture have anything

said by stomp357 See Profile :

said by CylonRed See Profile :

to do with broadband? All folks in rural areas are only farmers? Am I missing something obvious (or not so obvious)?
Yes! You are. Rural is not the farmlands when it comes to broadband. Just 1 mile down the road (with-in alot of cities) their is no broadband (satellite don't count).
And that was pretty much my point - why team with the USDA which is mostly concerned with farms than those folks living in rural areas that have zero to do with farming?

Just seems really odd - kinda like letting Frank Zappa (if he were still alive) to partner with the FCC on tightening the 'decency' laws.

patcat88

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reply to N O Y B
Re: 200 k to the cows!

said by N O Y B See Profile :


One of the rural places I visit frequently only has 256/256 kbps QWest. It is decent so long as not doing massive upload/download. I have uploaded multi-gigabyte videos from there before though. Works fine so long as you're in no hurry, but at least can still browse, email, IM, etc. while waiting.
A hurry must be a couple days for you.

(256/8/1024)*60*60*24=2700 megabytes, in ideal situation. Must be a couple days or a week to upload each of those multi gigabyte videos, egh?

What about when you browse the web and your upload slows down because the acks are getting to you slower?


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reply to CylonRed
Re: What does the Dept of Agriculture have anything

said by CylonRed See Profile :

And that was pretty much my point - why team with the USDA which is mostly concerned with farms than those folks living in rural areas that have zero to do with farming?
Well, considering that most "real" farms are 200-10,000 times as big as the typical "rural" customer, why would the USDA want to do THAT?

Helpful Hint: Eggs come from chickens on farms, not from the store.

Jump in your car, drive from Montana to Texas, and then from Virginia to Oregon and then tell me what "rural" is...
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neofast

join:2004-09-13
Weston, OR

Wow, Just what I need

The FCC and Department of Agriculture to come along and pay Qwest or someone else huge dollars to try to take my customers from me.

There's only one thing I need from the government.

STOP HOGGING ALL THE SPECTRUM AND THEN GET OUT OF MY LIFE, STOP TAXING AND REGULATING ME TO DEATH AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO SERVE ALL THE RURAL PEOPLE IN MY AREA!

In other words... LEAVE ME ALONE! I've got them covered in my area and working at it as fast as I can while still trying to fund the health care for the illegals that wander the land.

neofast

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reply to naturalguy
Re: rural broadband

said by naturalguy See Profile :

What I want to know what happened to the 200 billion dollars that the phone companies were supposed to build a nationwide fiber to the home network??????????????????????????????????????
It c ost 199 billion to study it.

The other billion they split up and took home at the last junket to DC.
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