ShadezeRO
join:2006-04-24
Fort Lauderdale, FL | Yeah
I give props on being first.
But what's the point if the connection is going to be throttled/capped? =\ |
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ARGONAUT
got ping?
join:2006-01-24
New Albany, IN | Updream data rates is more like it.
Upstream data rates in the US wont be increased that much.  |
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ossito16
join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN
 ·RCN CABLE
| reply to ShadezeRO
Re: Yeah
said by ShadezeRO  :I give props on being first. But what's the point if the connection is going to be throttled/capped? =\ I had the same question. What would the purpose be to have such high speeds if ISP's want to regulate, censor, and throttle our connections. With torrent sites falling like flies who needs high speed. I could imagine these clowns offering 280mbps down and 5mbps up. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
|  Without details, don't know how widespread offering will be
Until there are details available, we won't know where this may be offered. Or whether it may be available only in extremely limited areas. It takes time and money to rollout all the new Cisco routers and also provision any willing customers with the hardware they need at their end.
Also, no discussion yet on cost. How much will they charge for higher speed tiers? |
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N10Cities
SILENCE I Keel You
Premium
join:2002-05-07
Roland, OK
clubs:
·Cox HSI
 ·World Lynx
| Get ready to upgrade your NICs....
If speeds like this ever come to pass(320 Mbps), get ready to upgrade your NIC cards to Gigabit. Most ones currently in use top out at 100 Mbit..... only thing this type of speed would be useful for would be torrents and other PTP apps. Most sites out there won't put out anywhere near that type of bandwidth..... as mentioned before, with capping, throttling being implemented...who cares? |
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ztmike
Mark for moderation
Premium
join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN | New speeds tomorrow?
"The company, which has been at the forefront of DOCSIS 3.0 deployment in North America, is preparing to unveil faster speeds tomorrow"
Does that mean that they are letting customers order these "new speeds" by tomorrow? |
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pat_lc2000
join:2006-02-04
Ottawa, ON | caps
Does this mean videotron is going to let up on there hugely low caps...if so they become useful. |
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | reply to N10Cities
Re: Get ready to upgrade your NICs....
That's 320 megabits per node, not per customer. Your NIC will be fine.
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Toolmaster of La Grange. |
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Smokey
Even drunk on a bet ya make it to Canada
Premium
join:2003-05-20
Va Beach
clubs: | Interesting
This announcement will be interesting. I would like to know more details on just what kind of upgrades must be made to the plant and the nodes to make this work.
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Para Bellum!! |
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Jerm
join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
| reply to ossito16
Re: Yeah
Actually that is probably correct. Videotron is using *pre-cert* gear and if you read up on it, almost all the pre-cert gear's main flaw is it does NOT support UPSTREAM channel bonding!
Which means while they can offer 300mbps + down, on the up it will still be 30mbps SHARED upstream for all users on that section! |
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kd6cae
P2p Shouldn't Be A Crime
join:2001-08-27
Lancaster, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| faster upload, I hope
I'm all for an increase in speed in any direction, but where it's really needed is in the upstream direction.
A friend of mine has space on my dedicated server where he backs up large data files, each between 600 and 700MB. Do you know how frustrating it is to upload files when you only have 384 kilobits of upload bandwidth? It takes my friend 3 and a half hours to upload a 600mb file, yet he can download that same file in just 10 minutes! I don't know what the upstream limit of Docsis 1.0/1.1 or 2.0 is per node, but I'd have to guess, even Docsis 1.0, which many ISP's still use, can do better than 1 or 2mbps upstream. And yet only cable Vision offers speeds greater than 2mbit upstream to it's users. Get with the times already, and give us more upstream. ISP operators could keep their downstream speeds the same, but add more upload, and I'm sure many of us would be quite happy. |
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clandestin
join:2002-05-02
Montreal-Nord, QC
| Low cap and no upstream
Well Videotron has already a tier called Extreme High-Speed Internet Plus at 20Mb /1 Mb with a cap of 20Go in download and 10 Go in upload for $79.95/month and $7.95 per additionnal gigabyte, no fees limit.
Knowing them, it should be 100Mb / 1Mb at around $99.00 with a cap of, let say, 50Go combined.
So you bust your limit in less than hour.
Vidoetorn is always acting like a child telling that is daddy is more strong than yours. |
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odog
Cable Centric Vendor Biased
Premium
join:2001-08-05
Norcross, GA
clubs:
·Comcast
·Metrocast Communic..
 ·Vonage
| reply to Jerm
Re: Yeah
Considering most upstreams are only running in D1.1 3.2MHz QAM16 and thus limited to 10Mbps using a D2.0 6.4MHz 64QAM upstream and a 4 X 256QAM downstream you'd have 160Mbps down/30Mbps up shared among 500-600 users. Upstream channel bonding is definitely going to be killer but traffic is still asymmetrical to the net so downstream is MUCH more important. |
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ydoucare
join:2003-03-12
Rensselaer, IN
·Embarq
·Millenicom
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| reply to N10Cities
Re: Get ready to upgrade your NICs....
said by N10Cities :If speeds like this ever come to pass(320 Mbps), get ready to upgrade your NIC cards to Gigabit. Most ones currently in use top out at 100 Mbit..... only thing this type of speed would be useful for would be torrents and other PTP apps. Most sites out there won't put out anywhere near that type of bandwidth..... as mentioned before, with capping, throttling being implemented...who cares? You're never going to get that much bandwidth to your house, so your 10/100 nic will be more than sufficient. |
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RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
| reply to kd6cae
Re: faster upload, I hope
said by kd6cae :And yet only cable Vision offers speeds greater than 2mbit upstream to it's users. Cablevision (OptOnline/OOL) is my Connectivity provider and their Standard offering is 15/2 Mbs and their BOOST Offering is 30/5 Mbs (with the 30 down uncapped in the modem settings so you can get over that if your node is currently not overloaded and the incoming feed can support that bandwidth). |
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CWO333
join:2005-02-24
Chicago, IL
 ·1and1
1 edit | reply to kd6cae
said by kd6cae :I don't know what the upstream limit of Docsis 1.0/1.1 or 2.0 is per node, but I'd have to guess, even Docsis 1.0, which many ISP's still use, can do better than 1 or 2mbps upstream. DOCSIS 1.1 - 9Mbps upstream shared between all on the node
DOCSIS 2.0 - 27Mbps upstream shared between all on the node
DOCSIS 3.0 - Depends on how many channels they bond on the upstream but pre-cert gear is just that because so far, they don't support upstream channel bonding. |
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Done_Posting
Shoot to kill
Premium
join:2003-08-22
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| reply to odog
Re: Yeah
Well said. Of course, we're assuming their plant is clean enough to run QAM64 returns (which is probably a safe assumption since they're spending time and money on pre-cert DOCSIS 3.0 gear in the first place). Nevertheless, there are still plenty of modems out there chugging along with QPSK!
- Tate
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N10Cities
SILENCE I Keel You
Premium
join:2002-05-07
Roland, OK
clubs: | reply to ydoucare
Re: Get ready to upgrade your NICs....
 Thanks for the clarification.... |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·AT&T Yahoo
·AT&T DSL Service
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southwest
| reply to ShadezeRO
Re: Yeah
said by ShadezeRO :But what's the point if the connection is going to be throttled/capped? =\ 1 word: MARKETING.
Or 2 words, from the consumer side: False Advertising. |
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jessegr
join:2005-03-05
Gatineau, QC | Caps!
Really hope they ease up on the caps. |
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