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Comments on news posted 2008-02-06 10:35:50: Despite the fact that bidders are anonymous under FCC rules, Forbes believes that Verizon has all but won the much-coveted "C block" spectrum in the ongoing 700Mhz auction. On Thursday someone (assumed to be Google) threw down $4. ..


Matt
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Interesting Note

I didn't understand why Verizon would bid more for regional blocks than Google bid for the national C block, but this makes it clear:

It's a savvy strategy, because under FCC rules, if the regional bids top the bids for the C block, that block must be split up and apportioned to the highest bidder or bidders. By the end of Tuesday, the regional bids added up to $4.74 billion, about $30 million more than the current total for the C block.

So, Verizon may win the regional blocks, then get to bid again on the C block with no open access rules.

Nice.
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Re: Interesting Note

I don't think they get to bid again, they just win the blocks with the open access requirement.

The reason it makes sense to do it that way, is to save 100 million dollars or so. They could have placed a higher bid on the whole block, but they'd have to bid in increments, say $130 million more. If they can win with just a $30 million overbid, they saved some money.

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All the bids after Round 17 have been for 1 of the regional groupings instead of for the whole country.

WeSRT4

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Ugh...

Verizon is the last company that wou want to trust to run a so called "device-agnostic network".

Edit: Ok... maybe second to last behind AT&T

HarleyYac
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Still open?

But it "Must" be an "OPEN" network...!!! ????

Luker3

@vt.edu

What about Google wanting software for mobile devices?

I was hoping it was a sign that they would bid to win when they offered a monetary prize to the best software developers made.

But maybe they did that to put a sliver of pressure on whoever does win.
xenophon

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Verizon has to win it

Verizon doesn't have enough nationwide spectrum to do LTE or other 4G. They pretty much have to win or not be a player in 4G.

They do have AWS some spectrum for the eastern half of US if I recall, but not enough nationwide. ATT and Sprint already have enough to deploy 4G mostly nationwide.

I'd rather see Google partner with someone (like Sprint WiMAX) than become a telcom company. I really don't see Google dealing with customer support of such services.

KrK
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Re: Verizon has to win it

Not me... I'd rather see a new, powerful competitor enter the market with fresh ideas and a will to fight.

Seeding this spectrum to the big boys will give us more of the same we have now: Consolidation, higher prices, Slow access, Caps, 2 year contracts, etc etc
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Re: Verizon has to win it

said by KrK:

Not me... I'd rather see a new, powerful competitor enter the market with fresh ideas and a will to fight.
Even if that powerful new competitor has NEVER rolled out a wireless network before, not even a local one ??

I doubt Google would try on their own - they would team with someone else, possibly with an existing provider entity you might consider 'evil'.
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KrK
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Re: Verizon has to win it

The more competition, the more options, the better.
emptywig
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What would a fresh idea for running a telecom look like? I don't think Google has one.

wig

KrK
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Re: Verizon has to win it

said by emptywig:

What would a fresh idea for running a telecom look like? I don't think Google has one.
Service? Features? Value?
emptywig
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Re: Verizon has to win it

said by KrK:

said by emptywig:

What would a fresh idea for running a telecom look like? I don't think Google has one.
Service? Features? Value?
Hardly fresh ideas.

What new features? I mean, there are only so many things a phone can do.

I think Google needs to stay out of the phone biz. Stick with what you know.

wig
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Re: Verizon has to win it

said by emptywig:

Hardly fresh ideas.
Yeah, but we're talking fresh ideas to Telecom here...

jasonD

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Of course a telco was going to get it...

but it's just too bad google felt they had to stick their hand in the pot. They (google) have done nothing but raise the auction cost, which ultimately will be paid by all of us.

CylonRed
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I don;'t think Google

was/is going to be the panacea that everyone think it will be. Their revenue and profit (maybe just profit) missed Wall St estimates for the first time in their history. If they get in I don't think it will be with perfect open network - they will /would finagle it to get the most for their dollar to keep profits up and the stock price.
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X_Digit
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Never...

Never in a million years, would I have speculated ANY company throwing down BILLIONS of shareholder dollars at a chunk of FREQUENCY that MOVES THROUGH THE AIR!

Never in a million years, would you convince me that holding these kinds of auctions, etc. is the place for the FCC!

Anybody who STILL isn't convinced that we no longer have a government... but yet a group of CORPORATIONS that run this entire country, who buy votes, buy laws to fit their needs, buy ANYTHING to fit their agenda and needs (regardless of anything else... even at the cost of it's moral. And, if they can't buy it... I wonder what means they'd go?), they should get their heads examined!
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Re: Never...

And what is the government going to do with all this money? Spend it in Iraq? Just think what "good" could be done with this money if it didn't go into the government spending machine. Broadband for everyone, new schools, pay teachers what they're worth...

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