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kudos:1 | How long? Before there aren't any more cables left to be sabotaged/accidentally cut/blown up by terrorists/stolen by thieves/abducted by aliens?
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 |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK | Re: How long? We're making it easy for the terrorists. All the have to do is figure out where the cables are then use old fishing boats to drag anchors or customized cable snares to break them.
Still, this seems unlikely.... But it's getting suspicious. | |
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| | | | Re: How long? They just need to have a catfish tournament. I think I pulled three cables catfishing in the Delaware River in two weeks. Gotta send a blonde in to do a man's work. Geez...............but I haven't seen any blonde terrorists. There is one blonde that scares me and not many things scare me.
Rather than monitoring bandwidth they should be monitoring Nice 'n Easy. | |
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| | | | Why would the Muslims cut their own cables? They would be cutting off theirown communication. If anyone is doing it, it is the terrorist country of Israel that is cutting the cables. | |
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|  hpguruCurb Your DogmaPremium
join:2002-04-12 | said by ironweasel:Before there aren't any more cables left to be sabotaged/accidentally cut/blown up by the US military? Fixed it for you.
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kudos:1 | Had to say it.... I was the aliens, they don't want us to spread information all over the world...hhehehe
Seriously though, 5 lines now cut? Does this seem a weird coincidence to anyone else?
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|  PhilRojo SolPremium
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|  fireflierCoffee. . .Need CoffeePremium
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Limbo | Unless lines in that region have historically had this kind of problem, I would consider 5 cut lines to be a suspicious statistical anomaly. | |
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00000 | Re: Had to say it.... said by fireflier:5 cut lines to be a suspicious statistical anomaly. chance of this happening being 1 in billions (or even trillions at this point). | |
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|  swhx7Premium
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Elbonia | Historically, nations have refrained from cutting communications cables even in wartime. It harms both sides, and would set a bad precedent. It would be a setback for civilized international relations if this norm has been trashed by a lawless superpower on a mad crusade to dominate an oil-rich region.
The US has at least one submarine that is specifically designed with the capability to tap undersea cables (Google with words: "Jimmmy Carter" submarine cable tap). Presumably there would be an outage during installation of the tap. Also, severing or disabling the cable in one location would create a distraction for a tap to be installed somewhere else. | |
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Santa Cruz, CA | Re: Had to say it.... Cutting so many at once draws too much attention to the possibility that that is true, and they will be inspected more thoroughly. It could be that someone is in a hurry to get as much questionable monitoring capability, as they can before they are not able to. It shouldn't be that hard to locate a tap unless they are restricted from inspecting in some areas.
Anyways I think it's more likely that this year has had more storms affecting ships in that they are choosing to drag anchor in cable areas instead of floundering onto some reef or shoreline that would damage the ships and put their crews in danger.
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00000 | Re: Had to say it.... said by gaforces:Cutting so many at once draws too much attention to the possibility that that is true, and they will be inspected more thoroughly. i disagree. i now believe that people will be thinking this as a reason that it can't be suspicious, so it's even better! | |
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1 edit | to bad they dont have to cut the cable to make it work
even the first wiretap sub didnt so thats out
even in the 1970s and 80's all they had to do was park a box next to cable and monitor it via induction no cutting needed
you want to do this kinda thing with OUT cutting the cable
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| | | | | Re: Had to say it.... said by elios:even in the 1970s and 80's all they had to do was park a box next to cable and monitor it via induction no cutting needed
Tha article said this is affecting fiber cables and fiber can not be read by induction. For induction to work you need a magnetic field and that means electricity which means copper. | |
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Limbo | Re: Had to say it.... True, however I seem to recall hearing of a case where a U.S. sub intercepted a soviet fiber cable. They didn't cut it, they cut open the sheath, and bent the fibers slightly. Enough to cause light leakage through the fiber wall that could be detected by their equipment to intercept traffic, but not enough to cause detectable degradation by the cable terminal equipment.
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| | | | | | You don't need to cut into a figer cable and they are not using "induction". induction implies and requires a magnetic field, well for the most part it does. There is the technology to read fiber in a method similar to "induction" in that you don't need to cut the cable, and now you don't even need to cut the cable housing. You can park a box next to the fiber or on a cable crawler and "read" the fiber outside the sheath. | |
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| | | | You have no idea what you are talking about, so just don't start making up rumors.
The ability to "tap" copper and even now fiber is well outside the need to cut into anything.
Heck we could "tap" copper from space years ago, with the assistance of some pretty small ground based equipment.
Lastly, if you cut so many that it raised such a suspicion, that people actually thought you were tapping or cutting lines for a reason, it sort of defeats the covert reason to tap or cut a line. You know that every foot of that line is going to be inspected at some point in the very near future with "cable crawlers". | |
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| | | | said by swhx7:Historically, nations have refrained from cutting communications cables even in wartime. Sorry, but you're wrong here. During WWI, one of the first thing the Brits did was to cut the transatlantic cable from Germany to the United States. Made it easier to spread their version of facts in the war, and also led to even more anger when Germany sent the Zimmerman Note, since they sent it to Mexico over a telegraph line from the German Embassy in D.C. that was paid for by the US gov't earlier in the war.
Go back even further than that, and you'll find plenty of instances of telegraph lines being cut during the Civil War as well. Hitting an enemy's communications are a critical part of wartime strategy, whether internal or external. | |
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| | |  Let's think this through. Has anyone seen Paul Allen's mega yacht in the area? Or is it the union leaders who are tired of their jobs being exported? | |
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Seattle, WA | Over fishing Over fishing is causing this, another reason why all commercial fishing should be stop globally.
Of course, the environment is the main reason. Bottom dredging destroys the animals and the sea floor. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Over fishing A sudden bout of overfishing? If it were overfishing this would have been happening already for a few years. | |
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Anybody plot out yet what possible direction a hypothetical cable-eater might be traveling?
(ok, and able to do something to get at it- giant crabs? Sharks with shovels? Jurassic Shark?)
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| | | | | Re: Over fishing Y'know, the one that's been sloowly cruising around since the dinosaur age, deep down, chomping on dead whales, giant squid, and the odd tin of humans?
Or it could be the great-great-grandson of Captain Nemo, I suppose...
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|  MysticGogetaThe Robot DevilPremium
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League City, TX | Re: Scientology Yes did you hear about the guy who is hacking into their website and publishing the secrets to ruin the religion. Perhaps Tom Cruse struck cutting the fiber lines. | |
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Troy, NY | Re: Scientology "Cruise residence, Tom Cruise speaking."
"Mr. Cruise, the Church of Scientology needs your help! An individual has hacked our servers and is downloading our secret world-domination plan. Our only option is to sever an undersea Internet cable to cut their connectivity."
"I'm on it!"
"Oh, and remember, Mr. Cruise... should you be captured, the Church of Scientology will disavow any knowledge of your celebrity."
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Yadkinville, NC | Re: cut cables I overheard a conversation today between two coworkers. One of the coworkers sons is in the military somewhere in the middle east. He was claiming his son told him that just recently the ship he was on dropped anchor and cut one of these lines. So if what he was saying is true then it can happen. | |
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| | seems awfully suspicuous this is starting to seem intentional cuttings since the odds are just too small for all 5 to randomly get severed within a span of a couple weeks. if this is the case, it'd be interesting to see who is behind it. i'm guessing an investigation will follow and perhaps fines.
i'm sort of doubting terrorism, considering it'll harm more of 'their' people than help, but when you look at the internet, it is controlled by the USA and provides strong 'western influences/biases', both of these are things the terrorists hate. too much is already blamed on terrorism based mostly on speculation. although it is plausible, i just don't see it being the true cause. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: seems awfully suspicuoussaid by cornelius785:i'm sort of doubting terrorism, considering it'll harm more of 'their' people than help, ...
Since when have terrorist become concerned about their own peoples well being? They must be getting soft, like USA liberals, the French and rest of civilized mass media brainwashed world.
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Tulsa, OK | it is no secret That the US has subs with cable cutting apparatus. We could go all over the world cutting cables and no one would know. | |
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| Re: it is no secret said by inteller:That the US has subs with cable cutting apparatus. We could go all over the world cutting cables and no one would know. Iran has subs too. I can think of at least one reason they'd cut their own cables: To keep their people in a frenzied state of "we're being persecuted."
But, does anyone know if the recent cuts are unusual? Or, is it unusual that cuts are are recently reported? For all we know, this may have happened once a month for the past couple years.
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| | Invasion A communications disruption can mean only one thing...invasion!
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|  ARGONAUTgot ping?Premium
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| Re: Invasion said by jdjbuffalo:A communications disruption can mean only one thing...invasion! - Star Wars +1
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Tulsa, OK | what are we being invaded by, killer whales? ooh i'm scared. | |
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Redlands, CA | Re: Invasion That's funny because of what the West used to call muslims. | |
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USA | Look at the ends... All the repair crew needs to do is look at the ends of the cut cables. They will know what caused the damage. | |
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| | | Re: Look at the ends... Indeed, but it isn't difficult to make it look like an accident - hire a fishing boat to drag an anchor in this specific spot... oops! | |
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| | MysticGogetaThe Robot DevilPremium
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League City, TX | Re: Look at the ends... Iran would probally fire upon that boat if they caught it. | |
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| | Cloverfield :D That's it, that's the evil monster, stomping on the sea floor, cutting cables!
I wonder if it'll give a boost to the satellite industry as a back-up (unless there'll be "whoops, meteor strike caused two back-up satellites to crash" news on Thursday) | |
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| KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK | Re: Cloverfield :D Recent suppressed photo taken in the area....
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Port Charlotte, FL | Cable Must be Dr. Evil. Send in Austin Powers.... | |
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San Luis Obispo, CA | Re: Cable said by mrgrock1:Must be Dr. Evil. Send in Austin Powers.... All we have to do to fix this is pay "ONE MILLION DOLLARS". | |
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| |  mrchrisOut and aroundPremium
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| sucks I'd consider someone cutting off my communications an act of war. Its like blowing up a satellite, just cheaper to repair.
Sad to say, the US is the only one with motive to do something like this... I don't see that a submarine is needed, when everyone thought it was a ship anchor. Why not use a ship anchor? | |
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| | Oh no!! The **AA's are at it again!!! Maybe its the **AA's trying to stop thepiratebay?? Someone tell them they cut the wrong cables. TPB is in Sweden. | |
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| | | Re: Oh no!! The **AA's are at it again!!! No, it was copper thieves. | |
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| mrchrisOut and aroundPremium
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"There was disruption to 70% of the nationwide network in Egypt, and India suffered up to 60% disruption.
Disruption also occurred in the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, reported the Associated Press." | |
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| | who did it The US is going to say Al Qaeda did it, and the Middle East will think the US did it...and the blame games will begin. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: who did it said by wakipaki:The US is going to say Al Qaeda did it, and the Middle East will think the US did it...and the blame games will begin. And then we invade another middle east country to give them democracy. | |
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| |  It's our NEW economic stimulus package..
We're cutting off the Indian VOIP call centers to bring script-fed customer snubverse back to the US. VOIP over high-latency satellite doesn't work. It will create hundreads , if not thousands, of jobs.
Phase 2 will involve the tariffing of all the cheap, toxic imports from china to drive manufacturing back to mexico, where it belongs. Then we can hire more truck drivers to haul the stuff here.
No point manufacturing here since unions and health care premiums make the price per unit too high. | |
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| | | Re: It's our NEW economic stimulus package.. said by georgew :
No point manufacturing here since unions and health care premiums make the price per unit too high.
Besides, we already shipped out the machines to make stuff already, so we *can't* manufacture here.
Ok, BullMaulk. but we have too much of *that* already.
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| | CIA Anybody knows the CIA and Israel snipped these cables.
Cheesy attempt to blackout Iran before the attack. | |
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@dcmdw.dcma.mil | Hmm Clearly this was done as a combined effort between Japan EU and China.
Pit Extremists against the US wasting resources and energy so that they can overcome the US economy and ontinue to expand the trade deficit and practice unfair/inequal trade policies.
In all seriousness. No one gains from this. That is the only reason extremists make sense. Iran can still communicate all of it's government business via internal satellite uplinks within the country.
Could it be some political ploy by US. I'd say it is about as likely as it being separate accidents. | |
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|  jrwskw
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Huntington, IN | Re: CIA said by conspirist :
Anybody knows the CIA and Israel snipped these cables.
Cheesy attempt to blackout Iran before the attack.
Yep, right after we cut the string between their tin cans. | |
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Saint Louis, MO | I say if.... ...they still rely on copper/fibre for the primary and not back-up, they deserve to have them cut. | |
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