Tikker_LoS
join:2004-04-29
Regina, SK | Woot
used up my monthly allotment in 18 minutes! |
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TigerLord
Resident Pentaxian
Premium,Mod
join:2002-06-09
Montreal
 ·Videotron
Host:
International Broa..
Videotron
| Kudos?
I suppose I can give kudos to Vidéotron for releasing the first pre-DOCSIS 3.0 services, but when we crunch the numbers, it's easy to realize this is simply an e-peen contest for lack of a better word, and claim they're the fastest.
I'm currently subscribed to their regular high-speed and until my contract renews, I only pay 30$ extra for unlimited, which means 58,95$ plus taxes for unlimited 7mbit connection (which isn't too bad). For new cliens and anyone renewing the contract, this will increase to 78,95$ plus taxes.
But others users who pay 68.95$ for 10mbit with a 100GB combined cap (without overcharge limits), or 78.95$ for 50mbit with a 50GB cap (no overcharge limit either), what is the point???
I think this is incredibly disapointing. |
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Raptor
Not a Dumptruck
join:2001-10-21
London, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
 ·Bell Sympatico
| Nice, but hard caps.
Great speeds and all, but 50GB both ways?
50GB = 51 200 MB
50Mbps = 6.25 MBps
51 200 / 6.25 MBps = 8192 s = 136.5 min = 2 hours 16 minutes
Yes, you could argue who has 50gigs of data to download in a month, and some might say that they run/test that many Linux Distros.  But what's the point of that speed then?
This seems like a 'who's got the biggest balls' game. The people who don't download large amounts of media who won't go near this cap would be happy surfing their sites and checking their mail with a 10Mb connection such that they'll never see any hickups.
For $80/month i would expect at least 100GB if not more. Cap the damn upload if you have to, not the upload. Oh wait, it's already a 50/1 ratio. That's capped enough.
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....where's my fiber? |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| silly cannucks
when will providers realize they are making a mistake putting restrictions on what would otherwise be worthy of our attention.. there is NO POINT of even buying docsis 3.0 gear if these kinds of usage terms of service are part of the deal.
why is it that the consumer is always LAST when it comes to products & services in Canada? |
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TigerLord
Resident Pentaxian
Premium,Mod
join:2002-06-09
Montreal
·Videotron
Host:
International Broa..
Videotron
| reply to Raptor
Re: Nice, but hard caps.
said by Raptor  :This seems like a 'who's got the biggest balls' game. I went with penis in my analogy, you went with balls.
Same thing  |
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t0KE
join:2003-07-03
| What's so strange about top-heavy tiers like 100Mbps/2Mbps?
This is as much for the poster Karl as everyone.
The article mentions this will be available for 112,000 Laval Homes and presumably the ones in Asia are also homes.
What can a residential customer do, within their ISP's AUP, to warrant more upstream? Outside of hosting game servers, which might not be permitted in all ISP AUPs, upstream is for sending DNS requests, HTTP GETs and SMTP; nothing terribly bandwidth intensive, even for the most robust www sites.
P2P is obviously the driver to consider this "Strange". Should ISPs bend to the demands of P2P and their users, or should ISPs offer whatever they want to offer and let folks decide what they want to buy? |
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jessegr
join:2005-03-05
Gatineau, QC | reply to tmc8080
Re: silly cannucks
Less competition. Higher deploy costs. |
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drewbeaud
join:2003-01-19
| bargain
I posted this in the canadian broadband and Veidotron forums...
little bit ridiculous..
50 mbps = about 6 megs per second.
360 megs a minute
60x360 megs = 19.6 Gigs per hour
so 19.6G x 24 hours = 470.40$ per day in potential overage fees.
470.40 x 30 = 14112$ in potential overage fees.
Sounds like a good deal to me. |
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blips
join:2001-04-17
Addison, IL
| reply to t0KE
Re: What's so strange about top-heavy tiers like 100Mbps/2Mbps?
said by t0KE :What can a residential customer do, within their ISP's AUP, to warrant more upstream? Outside of hosting game servers, which might not be permitted in all ISP AUPs, upstream is for sending DNS requests, HTTP GETs and SMTP; nothing terribly bandwidth intensive, even for the most robust www sites. Online backups is one thing but what I really want fast upstream for is when I VPN in to my local network and try to control my home computer with VNC. It is brutally slow. I need more upstream!! |
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En Enfer
This account has been compromised
join:2003-07-25
Montreal, QC
·VIF Internet
| The internet is for web-browsing and e-mail
Sounds good for press conferences...
The 20Mbps package is at the same price as the 50Mbps, only difference would be the modem hardware.
But frankly, which one is more attractive between:
- paying 65$ for 10Mbit with a 100Gb monthly cap
and
- paying 80$ for a 50Mbit with a 50Gb monthly cap
??? |
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N O Y B
St. John 3.16
join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR | reply to blips
Re: What's so strange about top-heavy tiers like 100Mbps/2Mbps?
And multi-GB video uploads.
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Raptor
Not a Dumptruck
join:2001-10-21
London, ON
1 edit | reply to TigerLord
Re: Nice, but hard caps.
We were typing at the same time. Looks like we completed the set.
*edit*
(yes they're 10 mins apart, but i had the window open or something) |
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ldisimino
join:2004-08-17
| reply to En Enfer
Re: The internet is for web-browsing and e-mail
Are they joking!?? Whats the point in paying so much for just getting a 50mbit pipe if you can't use it? They could offer a 1gbit connection, but with any sort of bandwidth cap, its just fake advertising in my opinion. Funny how the new tiers actually offer less download bandwidth than the high speed 10mbit service offered by videotron (100gb up/down), and cost double. |
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adisor19
join:2004-10-11
·Velcom
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Radioactif
·Videotron
·Look Communications
|  Absolute BS
I can't wait to cancel ALL my services with Videoblows. This is a slap in the face to customers that have been using their services for YEARS.
Goodbye VL, i rather get an unlimited DSL account then get raped by overcharge fees every month.
Adi |
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TigerLord
Resident Pentaxian
Premium,Mod
join:2002-06-09
Montreal
·Videotron
Host:
International Broa..
Videotron
| I made some calculations fore when my contract expires:
Primus VoiP
49,95$+ tx, unlimited across USA and Canada with 10 options
Starchoice TV
55,96$+ tx with TNM (same as my current Videotron plan, perhaps with a few channels missing which costs 57,00$)
Teksavvy DSL Dry
49,95$+tx unlimited 7mbit DSL line
Total is 176,71$ including taxes.
I currently pay 181$ per month with Videotron, and it will be 201$ once contract renews, providing I keep going over the 20GB cap. Teksavvy also has a 39,95$ plan with 200GB which is more than enough for my needs (I currently do around 80GB per month) and would then pay 166,71$ versus 201$ witn Videotron.
I thought bundling meant savings? The only extra hassle is actually suscribing to each individual company rather than one, but for almost 40$ a month in savings, you can be damn sure I'll do it! |
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Lexxion
join:2006-11-22
Ridgewood, NY | 1 Mbps UPLOAD???
Oh great... You can download at 50Mbps and upload at 1Mbps only!!!!
When do they learn that people are using a lot of upload bandwidth too...
I rather have FiOS 20/20 Mbps... sheesh.. |
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JohnDrenZ
Premium
join:2000-04-03
Phoenix, AZ | I was thinking the same thing. At least a 5Mbps upload to start! |
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milnoc
join:2001-03-05
H3B | reply to tmc8080
Re: silly cannucks
Plus, Canadian cable operators have a monopoly over the territory they cover. Even going through a reseller may not get you a better deal. And chances are Vidéotron will keep the new technology for themselves. |
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cmc0
join:2001-08-03
Bowie, MD
clubs: | Only 30GB?
Only 30GB? LOLOL. I download more on a 3Mpbs Verizon DSL line. This as gotta be the broadband joke of the century and I don't know anyone who would be stupid to sign up for this POS service. |
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adisor19
join:2004-10-11
·Velcom
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Radioactif
·Videotron
·Look Communications
| reply to TigerLord
Re: Absolute BS
In my case it will be :
Acanac DSL for 18.95$ a moth if payed in 1 shot for the whole year
and a regular Bell phone line in special for 1 year at 20$ a month.
All this for a grand total of roughly 40$/month.
That's it. No TV needed since all my shows are on BT 
Adi |
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