mikenolan7
Premium
join:2005-06-07
Torrance, CA | Broadband
If Martin ever runs for office, he should only be allowed to count one vote per zip code. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
 ·Comcast
| good luck dude
not sure how successful this will be - the incumbents will fight tooth and nail to prevent official data from becoming public.
unless and until there is ever an FCC run by people that actually believe they have a responsibility to consumers rather than those they regulate, this information just won't see the light of day. |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| reply to mikenolan7
Re: Broadband
said by mikenolan7  :If Martin ever runs for office, he should only be allowed to count one vote per zip code. Martin isn't going to run for office. He's creating his comfortable, high paying job at one of the large Telco's right here in America once his term of Commissoner is over. |
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MrMoody
Carbon Based Lifeform
join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC
 ·Embarq
 ·Skype
·magicjack.com
| Lies and Statistics
Our analysis indicates that more than 99% of the country's population lives in the more than 99% of Zip Codes where a provider reports having at least one high-speed service subscriber Boy, talk about statistical doubletalk. 99% of people live in 99% of the zip codes in this country, what a surprise!
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The public is a poor business manager. |
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JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
| Call me simple.
But couldn't some not for profit just create a google map mashup with that information? Just have folks go to their site and enter some information and get a pretty accurate reading on broadband areas. Would take some time and lots of advertising but I would think it would be pretty accurate.
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MrMoody
Carbon Based Lifeform
join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC | They key (and tough part) would be to get people who have NO broadband available to report their location.
This is a good idea, though.
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factchecker
@cox.net
| reply to MrMoody
Re: Lies and Statistics
Actually, that's not statistical doubletalk so much as it is just a really crappy way of stating results.
The truth is, zip code has nothing to do with population, so it is possible to select, for example, 10% of US zip codes and the total population for those zip codes would total less than 10% of the US population. As you do select more zip codes, you will get more population, obviously. |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19 | This is a joke, right
The FCC makes heckuva job Brownie and that entire department seem competent, engaged and aware. |
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Syian
join:2007-12-20
Gwinn, MI
·Charter Pipeline
| reply to MrMoody
Re: Call me simple.
said by MrMoody :They key (and tough part) would be to get people who have NO broadband available to report their location. This is a good idea, though. wouldn't the places where there are no broadband options show up as empty spots on the map? or at least very spare spots?
which, in turn, would give us that same information that we're looking for?
though, if this idea (which is what i like to call and "Epic Win" idea) were done, you would have to allow some way to also note how many different providers there were available at that location too... to allow a good visualization of what exactly the actual competitive status of the area is.
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i used to belive in people.
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
| The FCC's definition of Broadband
Commissoner's Idea of Broad Band. |
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Send a prayer to Allah, eat Beans. |
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mikenolan7
Premium
join:2005-06-07
Torrance, CA | How Wired
They should just ask the spammers. They have us mapped out pretty well. |
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birdfeedr
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to nasadude
Re: good luck dude
said by nasadude :not sure how successful this will be - the incumbents will fight tooth and nail to prevent official data from becoming public. unless and until there is ever an FCC run by people that actually believe they have a responsibility to consumers rather than those they regulate, this information just won't see the light of day. That's what Clark is saying. FCC only releases numbers that are opaque, and don't say much about real broadband penetration. Yes, it's clear incumbents have paid lots of bucks lobbied hard to keep data hidden.
That's why he (Clark) launched a website to collect data on who provides, how fast, and how satisfied you are by zipcode.
FCC says there's 10 providers in my zipcode. I want to know who they are. Oh say, maybe I want to contact a competitor about availability. But I can only think of three, plus covad. So who is the FCC counting? And is it bogus info? And why is it so secretive?
Go to »www.broadbandcensus.com to add data from your neck of the woods.
FCC refuses to release the data, so he's trying to gather it himself. |
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MrMoody
Carbon Based Lifeform
join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC
·Embarq
·Skype
·magicjack.com
| reply to Syian
Re: Call me simple.
said by Syian :wouldn't the places where there are no broadband options show up as empty spots on the map? or at least very spare spots? which, in turn, would give us that same information that we're looking for? Sort of, but an empty spot wouldn't prove unavailability there, nor give any indication of how many (if any) people live there.
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SlyLoK
join:2007-10-19
Sugar Grove, VA
| reply to mikenolan7
Re: How Wired
I am a little confused here.. I went to the website that is linked to see what is offered in my area. The FCC says I have 5 providers and the 2 that the site found were Cox and Time Warner.. But neither of those provide any service here. It is Comcast , Adelphia and Charter ( I cant get service from any of them ).
Little confused is all. I will check Cox and Time Warners website to make sure. |
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Aframe
Premium
join:2008-01-30
Uvalde, TX | I also went to the site and it tell me I have 9 broadband providers but lists 0 providers. The only thing I have available is Satellite and it does not let me add Hughesnet to the system. hmmm... |
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jebba2005
join:2005-01-13
Portland, ME | GWI not on the list.
GWI is not on the list. Says I have 10 providers.
Lets see...
GWI, Verizon, Sprint, Time Warner, ATT, satellite, ...
Would they count Speak Easy, Covad.?? |
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danza
Premium
join:2002-08-23 | I'm surprised...
they didn't try and boast having 100% broadband coverage with the use of satellite. |
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DrModem
Premium
join:2006-10-19
USA | They did. Look at their maps :P |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | no RCN
Broadbandcensus.com is missing way 100s/1000s of providers. No RCN for example. |
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xsiddalx
join:2005-03-11
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Yahoo
| said by patcat88 :Broadbandcensus.com is missing way 100s/1000s of providers. No RCN for example. Why not just visit BBR?
It seems to be a decent indicator.
Chicago has NO or little competition anymore.
BBR seems to have all the ISPs that I could find.
Other than T, Comcast or Satellite...you have a couple of reseller choices via T and Covad. RCN was in business here for awhile. The WISPs all look like scam artists...just a hunch.
Sorta makes me wish the dial up days, seven providers at least in this market, maybe more expensive in total, but at least a choce. IMO, we get less for more bandwidth at higher price. Not sure higher bandwidth really matters..played my favorite games on line on dial up last year and felt the same as broadband. |
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