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Comments on news posted 2008-02-10 13:16:43: Cisco has teamed up with mobile software provider iSkoot to bring mobile VoIP to more carriers. ..

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prag

join:2000-12-19
Santa Clara, CA

Cisco does have a new logo

Just FYI...

disc

join:2005-12-31
Raleigh, NC

This is mobile-to-voip

Kathryn, I don't think this is true mobile VoIP. It's more like a wireless TDM call to/from the Skype call server. This is still a conventional TDM wireless call as far as the wireless carrier is concerned, so they still get $$ from the subscriber.

What I can't understand from the press release is the reference about how "iSkoot and Cisco's combined solution has been already been successfully deployed by mobile operators". I would have thought iskoot's PSTN gateways would have been deployed in the same LD carriers where Skype's PSTN gateways are deployed. Maybe it's that the wireless carriers want to terminate the traffic themselves to avoid fees to another carrier.

whiteyonenh

join:2004-08-09
Keene, NH
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Huh?

"The partnership allows iSkoot to offer a more reliable and diverse product because of the strength of the Cisco name."

I'm not sure how this helps a company bring out reliable and diverse just because it has the Cisco name intertwined with it. Thats like saying that Intel is more reliable than AMD, or NVidia is better than ATI. It's all largely a preference, and not necessarily true in all respects.

It's still going to depend largely on how well they can integrate with Skype among other things that need to be integrated.


laserjobs
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reply to prag
Re: Cisco does have a new logo

I thought they made wine

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Cabal
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And in next week's news...

Verizon sees competition, files lawsuit against Cisco.


Monster Rain
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reply to prag
Re: Cisco does have a new logo

said by prag See Profile :

Just FYI...
Welcome to 2 years ago


Monster Rain
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reply to Cabal
Re: And in next week's news...

said by Cabal See Profile :

Verizon sees competition, files lawsuit against Cisco.
Funny cause its true.


benc
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Isn't It Impractical Right Now?

While technically possible, I thought it's unable to work well right now. Why?

VOIP uses the Internet right? So, to have a VOIP client on a mobile, you need to use mobile phone Internet.

Problem is, while transfer rates are sufficient even on EDGE, latencies are horrible, even on 3G. Too much delay for voice, and it can make conversations difficult.

I looked into this myself, when I explored the idea of having a mobile phone as an extension for an Asterisk PBX, and running a SIP client on the mobile.

So why it can't work:

- The SIP client will need a beefy device, so a smart-phone is a requirement. Smart-phones are at a price point that turns off most people.
- The Mobile Internet isn't fast enough. Specifically, the latencies are horrible. It's not as bad as satellite, but it's still bad.

Maybe later, when Mobile Internet gets better latencies, those willing to spend the money on smart-phones can try this.


MrBeck

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 @benc - Re: Isn't It Impractical Right Now?

Correct. That's why the iSkoot solution does not involve VoIP from the handset. with iSkoot the handset uses a data connection only to do call setup with an iSkoot server, the handset then calls, using a voice circuit, the gateway number for the iSkoot service, the iSkoot server VoIPs the call to Skype and does the handshake with the Skype server. No QoS problems (other than the ones you normally experience on your cell phone, the carrier is kept (reasonably) happy as you are still using minutes and you save on all international calls. Downside, you don't save on "in minutes" calls since you are still making them, you need a supported handset, although all Java should work, they don't and incoming calls work less well (the app needs to be running).

Happy iSkoot user till I changed phones and lost support.


rob_in_chatt
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cisco sucks. they ruined linksys imho. since my old wrt54g v3 router croaked, i am on my 2nd replacement. all they make now is junk.


CC1E

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said by rob_in_chatt See Profile :

cisco sucks. they ruined linksys imho. since my old wrt54g v3 router croaked, i am on my 2nd replacement. all they make now is junk.
Everything they make under $200 may suck, but I love their product line.


totalaccess
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join:2002-10-04
Elgin, TX

reply to disc
Re: This is mobile-to-voip

exactly its a mock up to a switching device that wont be free to anyone. There are already packages that deliver free voip on smart phones like gimzmo5. I am working on a testing a new release on ISO only (sorry server guys) that converts from any cell to VOIP. Cool stuff, and yeah this one is actually free.

Take a look at what the big boyz are up against, and now you understand their urgency to deliver 'The NOW crowd'. With developers all over the world working to deliver free VOIP, the cellular area is the most needed place of deployment. We are excited to see so many VOIP developments.

I still think combined efforts like in mesh access points that run asterisk (free voip server) that work with free soft-phones or industry standard gear is a faster and easier way of deploying voice for your wireless network versus importing and exporting the traffic. Now that Cisco is officially moving into the market, we may see the needed help in getting the idea of Voice to Voice termination to & from numerous carriers.

»www.gizmoproject.com - free voip
»www.wirelessworlds.com - mobile mesh w/voip embedded
»www.asterisk.org - free voip server software
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