Chiyo
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| waste of time
What a waste of time get a real job.. On the other hand I always find it funny that patent holders always find out about "their" patents being used years later after ti's become mainstream.
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maartena
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| This is what's wrong with America.
The legal system in this country needs a major overhaul.
Buy the rights to something and then sue everyone who uses it? Such a lawsuit is not a problem if there were actual rights breached and a company is just trying to get the justice they worked for.... but the business this company is in is just abusing the legal system because they know the cable companies can pay up millions.
And who gets shafted in the end? The customer.
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Dogfather
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1 edit | Need loser pays system
We need penalties for people who bring these suits and lose other than just lawyer fees.
When it becomes a significant liability to lose one of these patent troll cases, they'll largely go away.
Force these patent trolls to pay not only lawyers fees to the defendants but also significant punitive damages in some sort of abuse of process counter award would mean the death of the patent troll. |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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| well with the list of companies this group is suing they better have the absolute best lawyers and lots of money to burn. especially going after the TV networks which are all owned by some rather large corps. ABC, Say hello to the disney legal team. NBC: prepair to meet General Electric, who im sure knows a few things about patent suits.
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PhoenixDown
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join:2003-06-08
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clubs:  | Your right... If they are going after these companies at once, they better have a ton of money because they will be going up against a combined legal team with more people than some small cities. |
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
1 edit | reply to Dogfather
What we really need is a statute of limitations on bringing patent lawsuits against technology that has already been vastly commercialized. If these patents have any value whatsoever these suits should have been filed over a decade ago. |
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SD6
join:2005-03-26
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Re: This is what's wrong with America.
said by maartena  :Buy the rights to something and then sue everyone who uses it? Such a lawsuit is not a problem if there were actual rights breached and a company is just trying to get the justice they worked for.... but the business this company is in is just abusing the legal system because they know the cable companies can pay up millions. And who gets shafted in the end? The customer. Not true. Many small companies go out of business. Why shouldn't they be allowed to gain at least from the technology they developed?
The CATV companies do NOT innovate. They generally utilize technology that others develop.
The VoIP lawsuits that Verizon have brought are more dubious, and are more for competitive reasons than "meritorious" reasons, than these.
The customer is more often hurt by the abuse of monopoly or dominating company than by some little guy suing. |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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join:2005-01-03 | Oh yeah!
I'd LOVE to see these guys sue every major cable internet provider and TV manufacturer. HA! |
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Noah Vail
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Re: This is what's wrong with America.
said by SD6 :The CATV companies do NOT innovate. They generally utilize technology that others develop. That's correct, they do not innovate.
They simply pay the bills of the people who do innovate by buying the innovated product.
It's not cost effective for the CableCos to operate their own R&D departments, but if there were no product development, they would have to. The output would be klunky and the consumer would pay for failure and success alike. So the independent guys are good to have around.
Synopsis: There would be reduced innovation without independent developers.
There would be no innovation with the CableCos.
NV
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PolarBear
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Re: Need loser pays system
said by Sammer :What we really need is a statute of limitations on bringing patent lawsuits against technology that has already been vastly commercialized. If these patents have any value whatsoever these suits should have been filed years ago. INDEED! That would solve most of the patent lawsuits in this country. Why was it Vonage was in business for over 5 years before Verizon and whoever-else decided to sue them? What, they didn't mind that their patent was being used for the first 5 years? Well then they shouldn't have minded if Vonage CONTINUED to use their patent.
I propose a statute of limitations of no more than 5 years for patent suits. If someone is using your shit for 5 years, obviously a) you don't care, and b) it isn't hurting you. You snooze, you lose. |
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Shamayim
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| This reminds me
somewhat of domain name squatters, those foresightful mercenaries in the early days of the web who registered domain names of successful companies before the companies knew what was happening. Then, like a ransom, they would sell the names of said companies back to the companies for a hefty price.
»library.findlaw.com/2000/Oct/1/128775.html
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lawrence171
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join:2001-12-24
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Re: Need loser pays system
said by Dogfather :We need penalties for people who bring these suits and lose other than just lawyer fees. One of their nuts 
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TKJunkMail
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Re: This is what's wrong with America.
said by SD6 :Not true. Many small companies go out of business. Why shouldn't they be allowed to gain at least from the technology they developed? The CATV companies do NOT innovate. They generally utilize technology that others develop. The VoIP lawsuits that Verizon have brought are more dubious, and are more for competitive reasons than "meritorious" reasons, than these. The customer is more often hurt by the abuse of monopoly or dominating company than by some little guy suing. I agree that some patents are legitimate and they deserve to win. But many of these patents are not specific enough to be enforced and these lawsuit firms try to get money thru blackmail rather than thru any legitimate claims.
The 1/2 of 1% that they want is less money than legal fees would be for many of the smaller firms they sue.
These particular lawsuits are news because of who they are suing this time. Against these foes the patent troll lawsuit firm may just lose. But they clean up on all the small and mid-size firms that can't fight back.
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Sabre
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join:2005-05-17
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| My patent filing.
Since patent law allows processes to be patented as well as inventions, this is the filing I will be presenting to the US Patent Office.
A process, to allow for the inventors of new processes and/or objects, to be recognised by the sovereign government of the USA as the original creator of said process or object and to be protected against any later claims to same.
And then I'll sue the US government for violating my patent patent.
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fishmaster
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| Collection Agency??
Are these guys like junk debt collector? Buy up patents that don't quite fly and manipulate it like it was an original idea.
**Hey....see our patented diagram has a line in here -> and we have that similar term there -> There fore they are infringing. Now let the harassing begin.... |
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jgegner
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2 edits | reply to maartena
Re: This is what's wrong with America.
said by maartena :The legal system in this country needs a major overhaul. Buy the rights to something and then sue everyone who uses it? Such a lawsuit is not a problem if there were actual rights breached and a company is just trying to get the justice they worked for.... but the business this company is in is just abusing the legal system because they know the cable companies can pay up millions. And who gets shafted in the end? The customer. This would be like either Intel or AMD receiving patents for new processor designs and then suing Dell, Gateway, HP, Sony and other computer manufacturers who choose to use them.
What a bunch of morons. |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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Re: Need loser pays system
said by PolarBear :said by Sammer :What we really need is a statute of limitations on bringing patent lawsuits against technology that has already been vastly commercialized. If these patents have any value whatsoever these suits should have been filed years ago. INDEED! That would solve most of the patent lawsuits in this country. Why was it Vonage was in business for over 5 years before Verizon and whoever-else decided to sue them? What, they didn't mind that their patent was being used for the first 5 years? Well then they shouldn't have minded if Vonage CONTINUED to use their patent. I propose a statute of limitations of no more than 5 years for patent suits. If someone is using your shit for 5 years, obviously a) you don't care, and b) it isn't hurting you. You snooze, you lose. because they sue for money, if you devlop something and patent it but dont really do much with it. i start using that and you know about it. now if you are smart you will hit me hard on day one. if you are greedy like patent holding firms you wait till there are millions or billions to be made.
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Transmaster
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Up Yours Senate and House. |
Now don't start moaning about, Bush this and Bush that, in this case the primary problem resides with the House and Senate.
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BigVe
join:2005-07-15
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Re: This is what's wrong with America.
How get you get a legal system overhaul when this country is controlled by lawyers etc.? |
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Surfinusa
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join:2001-02-08 |  Verizon " Can you hear me now " ?
I think its Verizon behind all of this. It's all part of there plan. HAHA |
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