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clubs: | Good Deal Finally, people can begin focusing on one technology (and hacking the DRM so we can copy). Actually, doesn't AnyDVD break Blu-Ray's DRM? | |
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join:2002-07-14
Sherman Oaks, CA | HD name was the killer Should've chosen "Green ray", not HD DVD. | |
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Mizzat
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Atlanta, GA | Re: HD name was the killer I like the HD-DVD name over Blu-Ray personally.
I hate Sony's proprietary format ways and hoped HD-DVD would win, but Blu-Ray is a better format technology wise. IT can hold more now and in future releases. | |
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join:2005-05-26
Annapolis, MD | Re: HD name was the killer Bigger doesn't always mean better. | |
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join:2004-06-21
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| Re: HD name was the killer said by AnnaS8  :Bigger doesn't always mean better. I'm not sure how you define better storage mediums but higher capacity and higher bitrate is pretty high on my list. | |
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usa | Re: HD name was the killer Plus The name "Blu-Ray" is just cooler than "HD-DvD"
Blu-Ray won because of its cool name.
Just like me:) | |
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| Re: HD name was the killer I'll guess we'll be seeing a lot of that revisionism from now on.
HD DVD had a new profile (triple layer) that would have possibly obsoleted most first run players. Blu-ray had no more revisions on disc construction and all discs would have the basic features work on all players. | |
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Mizzat
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Atlanta, GA | HD-DVD isn't finished, they are still working on expanding the capability of it, as well ad Blu-Ray and bit rates and storage is still better. Don't get me wrong, I was hoping HD-DVD would win, but it just doesn't look like they will. | |
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| Re: HD name was the killer said by Mizzat :HD-DVD isn't finished... uh... Yes it is.  | |
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Mizzat
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| Re: HD name was the killer said by Pictor Guy :said by Mizzat :HD-DVD isn't finished... uh... Yes it is. The standard is final, the technology isn't. | |
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Sammamish, WA | Re: HD name was the killer You're missing my point. There won't be a next generation HD-DVD player. The standard is dead, finished, the fat lady has sung... | |
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Mizzat
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| Re: HD name was the killer said by Pictor Guy :You're missing my point. There won't be a next generation HD-DVD player. The standard is dead, finished, the fat lady has sung... No, I'm saying your point is wrong  :
"Although the HD DVD standard is final, engineers continue developing the technology. A 51 GB triple-layer spec was approved at the DVD Forums 40th Steering Committee Meeting (held on November 15th, 2007)[55]. However, no movies are currently scheduled for this disc type, and Toshiba has declined to say whether the 51 GB disc is compatible with existing drives and players. Specification 2.0 Part 1 (Physical Specification) for triple layer HD DVD has been approved in November 2007[56]. At the CES 2007, Ritek revealed their high definition optical disc process that extended both competing high definition formats to ten layers, increasing capacity to 150 GB for HD DVD and 250 GB for Blu-ray Disc. However, a major obstacle to implementing this technology is that current reader-writer technology may not support the additional data layers."
Read about it here: »www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5656
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Mizzat
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| Re: HD name was the killer said by vliktor :Here we go again. Blu-ray is NOT a Sony proprietary format. Sony is merely part of a consortium of several companies that have jointly developed Blu-ray. It just so happens that Sony has received more publicity with it (with the PS3). » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Di···ociation» www.blu-raydisc.com/ If you don't think Sony was the main driver behind the technology and product you are fooling yourself. What other company in that list has the capacity to create and manufacture this technology? Sony is the only one currently has the manufacturing setup to produce disks, most the other only produce players so sure I'd start a "consortium" with people that would manufatuer complements to my product as well as endorse it as well. This is how the pushed the proprietary format be getting other industies leaders buy-in on it so they can beat out the competitor/s. | |
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join:2001-01-19
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| Re: HD name was the killer said by Mizzat :If you don't think Sony was the main driver behind the technology and product you are fooling yourself. What other company in that list has the capacity to create and manufacture this technology? Matsushita, Infomedia, Fujifilm Corporation, LG Electronics, TDK Corporation, Ritek Corporation, CMC Magnetics, Moser Baer India, and Victor Company of Japan. All of these companies manufacture blu-ray disks. Do your research before spouting out biased rhetoric. | |
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Mizzat
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| Re: HD name was the killer said by SRFireside :said by Mizzat :If you don't think Sony was the main driver behind the technology and product you are fooling yourself. What other company in that list has the capacity to create and manufacture this technology? Matsushita, Infomedia, Fujifilm Corporation, LG Electronics, TDK Corporation, Ritek Corporation, CMC Magnetics, Moser Baer India, and Victor Company of Japan. All of these companies manufacture blu-ray disks. Do your research before spouting out biased rhetoric. I have done my research, Sony created the Beta version of the disk and holds the liscense to it. Therefore any other corporations have to pay Sony a liscense fee to even make a Blu-Ray reader or disk. | |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| Re: HD name was the killer Read your post again. You challenged us to find companies that can make BD and had the capacity to. I provided a list of companies that in fact DO make BD. Now please cite evidence that all BD manufacturers have to pay Sony and Sony alone licensing fees to made blu-ray media disks.
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| Re: HD name was the killer said by SRFireside :Read your post again. You challenged us to find companies that can make BD and had the capacity to. I provided a list of companies that in fact DO make BD. Now please cite evidence that all BD manufacturers have to pay Sony and Sony alone licensing fees to made blu-ray media disks. Be careful not to backpedal on this one. I rather not go re-read or spend my time trying to find the articles I already have read. I'm sure in your infinte genius that you can use Google yourself. | |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
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| Re: HD name was the killer said by Mizzat :I rather not go re-read or spend my time trying to find the articles I already have read. I'm sure in your infinte genius that you can use Google yourself. In other words you can't back up your claims. Again, you still seem to gloss over your original point that I rebutted. Since you don't want to spend time scrolling up to your own post let me paraphrase:
"...What other company in that list has the capacity to create and manufacture this technology? Sony is the only one currently has the manufacturing setup to produce disks, most the other only produce players so sure I'd start a "consortium" with people that would manufatuer complements to my product as well as endorse it as well. "
I provided a list of companies that do manufacture Blu-Ray disks, thus disproving your claim that only Sony manufactures them. So then you go off and say Sony owns all the rights, even when it's common knowledge that the blu-ray standard was developed by a group of companies.
If you really did your research you would know that blu-ray was originally developed by technologies from both Sony and Pioneer. The first prototypes were created in 2000 and the Blu-Ray Disk Association was created in 2002 with nine companies coming together to develop the standard we see today.
Now since YOU are the one claiming Sony gets all the licensing fees from the format the onus is on YOU to provide proof to back that up. Otherwise you're just wasting MY time. | |
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Mizzat
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2 edits | Re: HD name was the killer said by SRFireside :said by Mizzat :I rather not go re-read or spend my time trying to find the articles I already have read. I'm sure in your infinte genius that you can use Google yourself. In other words you can't back up your claims. Again, you still seem to gloss over your original point that I rebutted. Since you don't want to spend time scrolling up to your own post let me paraphrase: "...What other company in that list has the capacity to create and manufacture this technology? Sony is the only one currently has the manufacturing setup to produce disks, most the other only produce players so sure I'd start a "consortium" with people that would manufatuer complements to my product as well as endorse it as well. "I provided a list of companies that do manufacture Blu-Ray disks, thus disproving your claim that only Sony manufactures them. So then you go off and say Sony owns all the rights, even when it's common knowledge that the blu-ray standard was developed by a group of companies. If you really did your research you would know that blu-ray was originally developed by technologies from both Sony and Pioneer. The first prototypes were created in 2000 and the Blu-Ray Disk Association was created in 2002 with nine companies coming together to develop the standard we see today. Now since YOU are the one claiming Sony gets all the licensing fees from the format the onus is on YOU to provide proof to back that up. Otherwise you're just wasting MY time. Since YOU are the one claiming that Sony doesn't get licensing fees, YOU provide me links saying they don't. That is the most pathetic line I've ever heard. I think you are probably a very intellegent person, you can do better than that. Why don't you provide me links that Sony doesn't recieve licensing fees, you are wasting my time. Pioneer gets them too.
Still none of those compaines created the technology, I said created and manufactured. Anyone that has been on Newegg can see there are disk manufacturers out there. | |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| Re: HD name was the killer Doesn't work that way. You made the claim and I challenged it. If you can't find the proof, or refuse to look it up, that's your problem. You want to challenge what I claimed you are more than welcome to take me to task and ask me to cite the information. I shouldn't have to do your legwork for you when I call you out on your claims.
said by Mizzat :Still none of those compaines created the technology, I said created and manufactured. Sounds like nit-picking. Even if that was your original intent on that point you are still wrong. It was Sony and Pioneer that originated the technology. Besides I don't think that's what you meant since you went on about only Sony having the manufacturing resources to make the disks. This is why I told you not to backpedal. I would catch you on it. | |
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Mizzat
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| Re: HD name was the killer said by SRFireside : Besides I don't think that's what you meant since you went on about only Sony having the manufacturing resources to make the disks. This is why I told you not to backpedal. I would catch you on it. That's a ridiculous statement, and wasn't my intent and you know it. You are taking words from a statement to make your posts make you look like you had a valid point. It appears to me that you're the one backpedaling.
I took 5 seconds to Google for you...
"Eventually, though, tech manufacturers in the HD DVD camp may switch to Blu-ray technology and start paying licensing fees to Sony and others for the right to do so."
»www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/c···1920.htm
I'm sure there are better, more detailed sites out that that explain it more, but I don't feel like wasting any more time with you. Good day. | |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| Re: HD name was the killer said by Mizzat :That's a ridiculous statement, and wasn't my intent and you know it. I took your words verbatim. How did I misrepresent that? Reread your post and tell me how the Hell I'm supposed to assume otherwise. Also reread that quote you made recently.
"...start paying licensing fees to Sony and others..."
Sony (and Pioneer for that matter) is not the sole owner of the technology. You have yet to prove otherwise. | |
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Mizzat
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| said by SRFireside :Read your post again. You challenged us to find companies that can make BD and had the capacity to. I read it again, still don't see a corp that would create a standard like this. I see manufactuing companies that liscense the technology and produce disks, none that created a similar technology. Only one I have heard of is Toshiba, and that isn't in your list, perhaps because they created the HD DVD. Are you going to dispute that now too? | |
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vliktor
join:2005-07-27
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| I agree that Sony (and Pioneer) were the main drivers of Blu-ray technology, but the final specifications (patents, trademarks, copyrights, etc.) DO NOT belong EXCLUSIVELY to Sony, but to the Blu-Ray Disc Association, where Sony and others are a part of. And no, Sony ISN'T the only one with the manufacturing setup for Blu-Ray.
Companies who wish to produce Blu-Ray media and devices pay to the Association a certain license fee. In a way, Sony GETS PAID for Blu-Ray, but it's not the only company getting paid.
So again, Sony does NOT own ALL of Blu-Ray, and doesn't get paid EXCLUSIVELY for Blu-Ray licensing fees.
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join:2004-07-31
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| said by blacksurfer :Should've chosen "Green ray", not HD DVD. that is the same thing I said to myself after reading article | |
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join:2002-12-15
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| Re: Good Deal So does BD marking.
Your burnt discs won't play on commercial players.
Yay another format that screws consumers , what a major win for us.
Sorry I am not buying any blu-ray stuff. Matter of fact im thinking about not even turning in the free 5 disc rebate.
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join:2004-01-12
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| I'm not focusing on Blu-Ray. Not for quite awhile. Too expensive, not a huge benefit to me in quality when I don't have a large enough set (nor have the money for one).
I'll be sticking to something like the Xbox Live Marketplace and just renting. Owning movies I have noticed, get refreshed (VHS > DVD > Blu-Ray > ? ) which just eats more into my pocketbook. I don't need the extra features, if I do, I'll buy it. But I just want to sit down, watch the flick, and move on.
But hey, thats just me thinking more of what the future will become when Broadband gets higher speeds and its pretty easy to download an HD movie without alot of wait time. Until then, my DVD player does the job more then adequate. | |
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join:2002-01-22
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clubs: | Finally I think alot of people are glad this is finally coming to an end just so things can move on.
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macaholic
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| I'm personally bummed.. because never liked Sony But I did buy a Playstation 3 yesterday and as always with Sony products it just doesn't quite fit with the rest of the equipment looks wise (although on its own its fine)... like uhm my Apple TV which sits with my equipment without sticking out like a sore thumb...
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join:2003-01-17 | Sony lives... Sigh Had HD-DVD won the battle... It would very much signal the end of Sony... Oh well, maybe next time ahhaha
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| Re: Sony lives... Sigh said by LaZ3R :Had HD-DVD won the battle... It would very much signal the end of Sony... Oh well, maybe next time ahhaha LOL!
I don't think so friend!
Sony does TVs, computers, cameras, TV shows, movies, music... Sony aint going nowhere! 
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Vertickle
join:2003-08-05
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| Re: Sony lives... Sigh said by dadkins :said by LaZ3R :Had HD-DVD won the battle... It would very much signal the end of Sony... Oh well, maybe next time ahhaha LOL! I don't think so friend! Sony does TVs, computers, cameras, TV shows, movies, music, rootkits... Sony aint going nowhere! There! fixed it for you. | |
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| said by dadkins :LOL! I don't think so friend! Sony does TVs, computers, cameras, TV shows, movies, music... Sony aint going nowhere! They're not making SXRD's anymore, so the only TV's they're producing are sub-par LCD's. They make average computers, at above average prices. They've had issues with failing CCD's in their cameras (I have one, dead... I could send it to Sony for replacement but I wont even bother). Their "home theater" systems are more than lacking in several areas, Bose is just killing them here (sad day, for a company who's name is derived from the latin word for sound). They stabbed themselves in the foots with the whole ATRAC thing, as far as portable players go... and while market share doesn't mean everything as far as game systems go, they're dead last in this console race.
So all that leaves left, really, is their entertainment arms... and the entertainment industry has been slowly declining as well.
They may not be going anywhere, but Sony definitely isn't the same company they used to be.
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gate1975mlm
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Philadelphia, PA | Way to go Blu-Ray! I wonder how long before Toshiba comes out with there own Blu-Ray player | |
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join:2002-01-31
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| Re: Way to go Blu-Ray! said by gate1975mlm :I wonder how long before Toshiba comes out with there own Blu-Ray player Any time now. They are already starting to develop players. | |
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CWO333
join:2005-02-24
Chicago, IL | Sony is gonna have a field day I'm sure just as Sony said they were what made DVDs popular by including DVD support in PS2, they're now gonna declare that since PS3 has Blu-ray in it, they were what made Blu-ray popular too. | |
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dadkins
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1 edit | As was stated many times... "Blu-ray will win!" - and it did!
Cheap did not prevail!
Good enough - wasn't!
"Wait til....", we did - POOF!
Every time it ended in POOF!
Somehow, "I told ya" just isn't gonna cut it!
Remember people, it wasn't just Sony.
It was Sony and nearly every other CE & Media mfgr.
Studio support was also a factor.
No matter how cheap Toshiba sold their players, people still bought more BD players. Period!
"PS3 doesn't count!"
Apparently it did!
More Blu-ray Discs were sold too!
*WE* did try tell you all, y'all just wouldn't listen.
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clubs: | Re: As was stated many times... haha if I was not on my mobile right now I would give you thumbs up | |
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Here | Yea luck had no role in this. Blu-ray won exactly as anyone who really looked at the "battlefield" predicted. The chaff as you pointed out never had a real good chance of turning things around. | |
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singh
join:2002-01-30
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2 edits | MS should've done something I blame the demise partly on Xbox, had HD DVD player come standard with console purchase, the movie retailers would’ve think twice before going solo. I bet there are more integrated BD players in living rooms than standalone ones. Just as most of the folks here I hate Sony’s monopoly and wish HD had survived. | |
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singh
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pepperxn
join:2001-02-21
| told ya I knew Blu-ray would win before the battle even started. Most electronic companies building Blu-ray players, more studio support, better security (which studio wants their content illegally copied), directors supporting Blu-ray, PS3 had it, more storage, minor but better name (I noticed people were calling HD DVD, just as HD), etc.
How about all those people that claim that there's no way Blu-ray will win, or "I think HD DVD will win". Probably the same people that said that the PS3 lost, or was a failure. Look at it now. It's #2 in sales in January, almost beating the Wii. Also, they probably claimed that we won't see a cheaper PS3 until at least 2008, 2 price cuts in 2007! Or that PS3 won't be profitable, Sony just broke even. These people don't know what they're talking about. Someone even claimed that Blu-ray can't read DVDs. 
Some people complain about the region locking of Blu-ray, but how often do you buy movies elsewhere. Plus these people don't complain about DVD, which has it. HD DVD didn't have it, probably just to "try" to increase sales, and if it won, then you know they're gonna add it.
Anyways, Blu-ray won, the better format won. The HD DVD fans will now say things like downloads will beat Blu-ray, and the better format lost. It's all crap. They need something to say, that's all. They may not admit it. The ones that bought HD DVD were calling Blu-ray another Betamax (losing format), while in reality, they just bought the next Betamax (HD DVD).
Don't like Sony? Then buy a Blu-ray player from pretty much ANY electronics company.
If you bought Blu-ray early (and can't use newer features), you're taking a risk, that's why PS3 is the best Blu-ray player. Blu-ray had to release early to gain momentum. With any new technology, you're taking a risk when there's no standard.
Blu-ray supporters, you made a wise choice.
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viperpa33s
Why Me?
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| Big Deal What is the big deal, who cares. Most people don't care about if it's HD and all that other BS, they just want to watch a movie. How many people actually watch the extras on a DVD? All I can see now is people will be spending way more money for a movie for nothing. In the end I will be saying I told you so because Sony will now be able to do what it wants.
In another few years I think discs will be going the way of the dodo like the death of the LP and be replaced with thumb drives or something similar. Companies are just trying to justify keeping the disc around. With thumb drives increasing in size more and more every year, it would be more reliable to own a thumb drive than a disc. What's more easier to carry around? | |
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| Re: Big Deal actually, thumb drives suffer a few problems that non-rewriteable media do not. one being that you can't accidentally overwrite parts of your movie by standing too close to a badly sealed microwave. or that there's no risk of the magnetic scanners at an airport messing up your movie on the thumb drive.
oh, and limited numbers of read/writes on most portable thumb drives can be kind of a PITA too...
'permanent' storage media vis a vis CDs/DVDs/Blu-Ray discs aren't going to go anywhere for awhile, as they're fairly permanent and pretty wear resistant. | |
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join:2000-09-13
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| Re: Big Deal There is not a media in the world that is not going to suffer failure.
I have been through the airport many many many times and not once has a single external drive, thumb drive, or any other media been affected by the many scans they have under gone. | |
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ossito16
join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN | follow toyota marketing Why didn't the HDdvd group just dump these things onto market at a loss. Had they cost under $ 200 it would have taken off. Also MS screwed up by not making it part of the Xbox. Somebody totally screwed this up. | |
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| Re: follow toyota marketing said by ossito16 :Why didn't the HDdvd group just dump these things onto market at a loss. Had they cost under $ 200 it would have taken off. Also MS screwed up by not making it part of the Xbox. Somebody totally screwed this up. Where the hell have you been?
Black Friday? $99 Toshiba HD DVD players... and STILL more BD players were sold!
Warner left, $125 players and 7 discs - FAIL!
Toshiba has been taking it in the rear to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars in losses!
You can only bleed millions so long before the shareholders start pissing themselves.
Well, even with the firesales... no dice!
People bought more BD players and Blu-ray discs - by 2:1 or greater.
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join:2004-07-31
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| Re: follow toyota marketing Those Toshiba players were crap versions, I mean give us high end stuff. Toyota sold the Prius at a lost just to get their name recognized as the leader in hybrid cars. That name is now the standard when talking about hybrid cars. Honda is also doing the same with FCX hydrogen car, taking a hit for the sake of research and name recognition. I am just saying it could have been done if they made it easier from the start when this all came out, don't wait until the ship has sailed to start lowering prices. No matter what, I wonder if the bluray prices will start declining. | |
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iEvolution
join:2006-06-24
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1 edit | I can't stand sony.. I think both are great technological advances, however my passionate hate for Sony makes me furious that these butt monkeys won the war.
I don't understand how they are still in business, defective PSX/PS2 models, defective laptop batteries, DRM'd rootkit Audio CDs, released a patch for it that doesn't actually remove it at all, and a completely overpriced PS3 to top it off (though not as bad now).
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seant169
join:2003-07-21
Forney, TX
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| WHO CARES about this war???
All it did is give the industry BLUE BALLS.
Who Gives a Flying S__T
The media is too small and too slow for data usage like computers.
A HD Disk needs to be somewhere around 500 gigs to 1TB in size.
Otherwise its just a waste. Not surprising to see Sony being the waste.
PS I have a TiVo and download movies using amazon unbox and its great!!! and HBO HD and all the other why do you need dvds except for sharing and you dont have internet. | |
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join:2004-07-28
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| Re: WHO CARES about this war??? said by seant169 :PS I have a TiVo and download movies using amazon unbox and its great!!! and HBO HD and all the other why do you need dvds except for sharing and you dont have internet. Amazon doesn't have HD movie downloads and 50% of the US doesn't have internet or has dial-up. | |
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join:2003-01-29
Lynnwood, WA | Re: WHO CARES about this war??? True.. But can you really see grandma going out an buying a Blu-Ray player when she doesn't even have a CD player yet | |
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| Pictor Guy
join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA
| Why would an HD (high definition) disk need to be 500gb+?
And if you enjoy Amazon unbox on your TiVo then you're missing the point. Unbox on the TiVo is 4:3 formatted picture and certainly not HD quality. Heck it's not even DVD quality. HBO HD? Wonderful, I enjoy it on my TiVO HD too. But it's not even close to Blu-Ray. HBO HD is not always 1080i and the audio track is at best lossy compressed DD. Blu-Ray on the other hand is 1080p and either a lossless compressed or uncompressed LPCM audio track. | |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| You thinking more on the lines of computer storage than a disk to play movies and TV shows. And for that you're just going to have to wait until they create a media that carries that size. For the rest of us that just want pretty moving pictures all is good. | |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| support distro codec DIVX 6/H.264! You don't have to support the video format entirely;
Encode data under divx 6 for Hi-Def playback without DRM and specifications you choose. This can be supported under DVD or Blue Ray.. and until the prices come down.. you content can be ripped from BlueRay discs to Divx 6 (or h.264) and output to Hi-Def without much of any loss. The loss to Blue Ray will rival that of what MP3 did to AUDIO CD's. | |
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Sweet Witch
Be the flame, not the moth.
Premium,MVM
join:2003-07-15
Gallifrey
·Comcast
| Ok then Does this mean I'm going to have to replace my DVR to watch new Netflix movies in the future?? I have this one - »www.amazon.com/Philips-DVDR3505-···7&sr=8-2 - along with three others scattered around the house. If so, that is highly and utterly unfair. Not only to consumers, but the landfills are going to be overrun.
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| bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here
| Re: So what 'And on my 65" 1080P Mitsu DLP there is little perceived difference between 1080i upscaled DVD and 1080P Blu-Ray.'
Then stop using composite cables.
I have the same set-up and what you've said is completely not true from my experience.
But going back to your argument. DVD's have to watch out for VOD. VOD doesn't give the same quality as Blu-ray. | |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| Re: So what said by Dogfather :Saying there is a major difference between 1080P and upscaled 1080i is wishful thinking. If you are sitting five or six feet away from the television then you won't really see the difference. High def resolutions are all relative to
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| Pictor Guy
join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA
| said by Dogfather :And on my 65" 1080P Mitsu DLP there is little perceived difference between 1080i upscaled DVD and 1080P Blu-Ray. Then something is very wrong. My smallest HD TV is a 34" 1080i CRT set. And even on this TV I can definitely tell the difference between a 1080 Blu-Ray disk and a 480i DVD up-converted to 1080i. And even in the audio department there is a huge difference between 5.1 DD and 5.1 LPCM at 24bits. | |
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tim_k
Buttons, Bows, Beamer, Shadow, Kasey
Premium
join:2002-02-02
Stewartstown, PA
·Millenicom
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| Glad it's over I didn't care who won, but I'm glad we're down to one HD format now. It's best for both consumers and companies. With one format the studios don't have worry about which format to support or making movies in both formats. Stores don't have to stock hardware in both formats and video and rental stores don't need to provide space for each format. It will eventually help the consumer because now the efficiency of large scale production will bring down prices. Sony won't have a lock on production, other companies are making them too. It took DVD a few years to become mainstream. It will take BD a couple more years also.
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RIP my baby Buttons 1/15/94-2/9/07 Buttons, Buttons video
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