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Gilitar
join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL | Money won't fix Sprint
Intel is flushing money down the toilet by giving Sprint control. Sprint has a way of screwing up everything they touch due to their lack of organization.
In order to succeed Xohm needs to be spun off. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Intel owns a lot of WiMAX patents. It needs to have WiMAX make money, so its shoveling money into Sprint/Xohm so get it off the ground.
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
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·Patriot Media
| Another Minority tech
Just like Iden, Nextel Sprint is burying itself in proprietary technologies. When manufactures have a choice between LTE which serves all the USA thru Verizon ATT, Tmobile Or WiMax which serves Sprint users. Which are they going to choose. Sprint get with the program, and join the rest of the world. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
 ·North State Commun..
| said by DaveNJ  :Just like Iden, Nextel Sprint is burying itself in proprietary technologies. When manufactures have a choice between LTE which serves all the USA thru Verizon ATT, Tmobile Or WiMax which serves Sprint users. Which are they going to choose. Sprint get with the program, and join the rest of the world. This is actually a good thing for consumers. Do you really want to be subject to a single network no matter if you use AT&T or Verizon? I sure don't, because a single problem could affect everyone.
I think this is a good move for Sprint, especially since Intel will include a WiMAX chipset in any Centrino branded laptop. Imagine turning on your laptop and "Hey, there's a wireless network available ..."
Sprint's customer service may blow chunks, but they are VERY good at engineering and running a network. |
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17 | reply to DaveNJ
LTE is more proprietary than WiMAX. LTE is about carrier control. WiMAX is more open and has a much better chance getting into consumer devices than LTE.
LTE will become a closed form of telcom communism. WiMAX is for the people. |
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
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Re: Money won't fix Sprint
said by Gilitar :In order to succeed Xohm needs to be spun off. That might happen. The Street report said a 'new company' would be formed. |
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
4 edits | reply to Matt
Re: Another Minority tech
Sprint's customer service may blow chunks, but they are VERY good at engineering and running a network.
They do seem to have the better 3G network in the US. And the Xohm group will have it's own customer service and billing group. But they may end up spinning off from Sprint anyway.
And while LTE may end up having the larger network globally in the end, WiMAX will still be rolled out in most countries anyway. India plans to hit 200m pops with WiMAX. Korea and Japan are headed to major deployments. Europe is working on allocating spectrum for WiMAX. LTE won't be available for 3 years. WiMAX is just about here.
Saying both can't co-exist is like saying cable and DSL cannot. And WiMAX/LTE business plans have much greater difference from each other than cable/DSL. |
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Lumberjack
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join:2003-01-18
Newport News, VA
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And don't think that the same tech will allow a device to roam between them. SIM provides that now with many carriers but phones can still be locked and who know what the next gen phones will do in terms of locking (maybe perm like current sprint/verizon cdma phones).
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| WiMAX is about IEEE specs, not carrier lockdowns. Like WiFi, a consumer electronics maker just needs to drop in a WiMAX-compliant chipset. No need to involve the carrier in the development cycle or testing just as you don't see them dealing with WiFi providers. We'll be able to see WiMAX in any kind of device that could benefit from being on the Net. This simply won't happen with LTE. |
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
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Re: Money won't fix Sprint
said by Gilitar :In order to succeed Xohm needs to be spun off. This actually sets up a new joint venture between Sprint/Clearwire/Intel. Intel already owns a minority share in Clearwire and for $2 Billion they should certainly get some equity in this new venture. If Intel can get to the point where WiMAX has economies of scale WiMAX can probably co-exist with LTE. The two technologies are not totally incompatible in the way that CDMA and GSM are. |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
·Comcast
·Patriot Media
| reply to xenophon
Re: Another Minority tech
said by xenophon :LTE is more proprietary than WiMAX. LTE is about carrier control. WiMAX is more open and has a much better chance getting into consumer devices than LTE. LTE will become a closed form of telcom communism. WiMAX is for the people. This is completely false. LTE and WiMax are transport methods. CDMA, GSM etc can all be open, its just the carriers choose to enforce carrier locks. Wimax is just a transport method, its no more locked, or unlocked then any other method. |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | reply to xenophon
This has to be the greatest misuse of the word "communism" ever made. |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
·Comcast
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| reply to Matt
said by Matt :said by DaveNJ :Just like Iden, Nextel Sprint is burying itself in proprietary technologies. When manufactures have a choice between LTE which serves all the USA thru Verizon ATT, Tmobile Or WiMax which serves Sprint users. Which are they going to choose. Sprint get with the program, and join the rest of the world. This is actually a good thing for consumers. Do you really want to be subject to a single network no matter if you use AT&T or Verizon? I sure don't, because a single problem could affect everyone. I think this is a good move for Sprint, especially since Intel will include a WiMAX chipset in any Centrino branded laptop. Imagine turning on your laptop and "Hey, there's a wireless network available ..." Sprint's customer service may blow chunks, but they are VERY good at engineering and running a network. You got my point but in reverse. Sprint a single Wimax carrier. Big 3. ATT Tmobile, Verizon. So you have a choice of 3 LTE carriers, or 1 WiMax. Why would i buy a laptop, which i could subscribe to a single carrier? If you have a cdma cell phone, you in the exact situation you describe.. |
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TuPaK
join:2002-07-21
San Gabriel, CA
·Charter Pipeline
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Re: Money won't fix Sprint
and thanks to you this info was posted on here days ago, »Intel to pump $2B into Sprint and Clearwire
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Luker3
@vt.edu
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Re: Another Minority tech
Exactly, the idea behind WiMAX is the same as Wi-Fi, you aren't lock to a single service, you go to a hotspot and it is either free or you have to buy service at the counter. With WiMAX you could just login and be connected at much farther distances.
And I thought it was going to be set up so that if you have WiMAX service you could roam into Wi-Fi service area and get the faster Wi-Fi. |
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jay_rm
join:2002-04-12
Netville
·Fox Valley Internet
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said by DaveNJ :Just like Iden, Nextel Sprint is burying itself in proprietary technologies. Since when is WiMAX a 'proprietary technology' of Sprint ???
It's a world-wide open standard of the IEEE.
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17 | reply to DaveNJ
I'm talking more about the business model, not the technology. The technologies are both essentially OFDM. The carrier controlled business model of LTE is not as open as the WiMAX business model. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Definately. The most locked today is the CDMA business model, followed by GSM and iDEN
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17 | reply to EPS
Hehe.. I got carried away. |
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