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Comments on news posted 2008-02-20 16:29:52: Yesterday's flurry of announcements that Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile would all be offering expensive unlimited wireless phone tiers has made investors nervous. ..

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jc100

join:2002-04-10

Sprint

Lets do the Positives for Sprint:

1) Expansive Coverage
2) Reliable Network
3) Great Roaming Capabilities
4) 3g with UNLIMITED internet and no hidden caps
5) Reasonable pricing scale

Cons

1) One thing that holds sprint back is its HORRID customer service. To their credit, moan and they will give you credits back on your bill. IE, if they mess up they'll toss out 10 and 20 dollars your way like candy. So for their poor and inefficient support, they do compensate you at least. I've had them for around 10 years and their billing sucks. If you dont mind moaning, then they;ll give you credits for the headache of having to call in. Yes, it's a headache too.

2) Merger with Nextel was a bad move.

Either way, Sprint has a lot going for it. If it could hammer out those 2 Cons, I'd rate it the BEST in the U.S. However, that customer service point drags it down a lot. Still, if they offered unlimited, I;m sure people would go to them, but I'd recommend training their support better.


RiseAbove
IreCruitU
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join:2004-01-30

Awesome

I would of loved to be in ATT's board room when they found out Verizon and other people were shifting to the unlimited plans. As always they followed other people which isn't surprising but they are so focused on money that their heads had to do a full on spin, a la the Exorcist.

God bless the market for pushing this thru.
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xenophon

join:2007-09-17
·Sprint Mobile Broa..

reply to jc100
Re: Sprint

Sprint's CEO said a few weeks ago that they are preparing to deploy some 'nukes' to change the industry. Wow if this happens....

»news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080220/bs_···icing_dc

quote:
NEW YORK (Reuters) - No. 3 U.S. mobile service provider Sprint Nextel Corp (S.N) is expected to offer flat-rate calling plans at up to a 40 percent discount to its rivals, hurtling the industry into a price war, analysts said on Wednesday.

Sprint has yet to respond, but analysts say it could be considering an unlimited calling plan for as low as $60 a month in a bid to stem customer defections.
If something like this happens, I imagine roaming will become complicated again.


jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs:

bets deal

tmobile has the best deal at 99 for text messaging and voice unlimited for 100 a month. and i thought verizon got rid of the 5 gig cap? they why does the article talk of it still there for those plans?
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cpayne5

join:2004-01-06
No, Verizon still has the 5GB cap. They just call it as such, now, and no longer refer to it as "unlimited".
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odreian615

join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL
99 dollar unlimited

still feels like you're getting raped


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME

reply to jc100
Re: Sprint

said by jc100 See Profile :

1) Expansive Coverage
2) Reliable Network
3) Great Roaming Capabilities
4) 3g with UNLIMITED internet and no hidden caps
5) Reasonable pricing scale
Corrections:
1) Urban/Interstate coverage

3) Great U.S. Roaming Capabilities
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mindfrost82

join:2003-04-19
Cortland, IL

reply to jc100
I agree that the Nextel merger should have been handled differently, but to be honest, without that merger, they wouldn't have been able to expand their coverage as much as they did in the past couple of years. That was the main benefit of the merger.


pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast

Confused...

I really don't know what to make of these unlimited voice plans. I find that I use virtually no minutes at all on my cell phone.

However, I had my family take the rather extreme step of getting all of our cell phones from AT&T just for that purpose. We talk to each other all the time and pay nothing for the minutes used.
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EPS

join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA

Analysts...

These analysts seem to oppose every new development- if they were in charge, all cell-phone plans would running on analog and cost over $300, with massive congestion because no one would introduce "costly" digital systems... VZW, AT&T, T-Mobile, and probably Sprint-Nextel are just doing what is necessary to compete in the industry.


tomkb
Premium
join:2000-11-15
Avon, OH
clubs:
·RoadRunner Cable

In situations like this

you have to ask yourself one thing, what would Chad do?


AbBaZaBbA
Premium
join:2002-07-10
Wildomar, CA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to EPS
Re: Analysts...

said by EPS See Profile :

These analysts seem to oppose every new development- if they were in charge, all cell-phone plans would running on analog and cost over $300, with massive congestion because no one would introduce "costly" digital systems... VZW, AT&T, T-Mobile, and probably Sprint-Nextel are just doing what is necessary to compete in the industry.
LOL. If the analysts were in charge they wouldn't be competing.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
reply to xenophon
Re: Sprint

You will get a minute bucket for roaming then, or just get a termination letter one day that your more than 50% of your minutes were on roaming.

xenophon

join:2007-09-17
·Sprint Mobile Broa..


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reply to mindfrost82
said by mindfrost82 See Profile :

I agree that the Nextel merger should have been handled differently, but to be honest, without that merger, they wouldn't have been able to expand their coverage as much as they did in the past couple of years. That was the main benefit of the merger.
Good point. Sprint added CDMA to 4000 Nextel sites and plans for a total of 8000 new CDMA on Nextel sites.

Sprint/Nextel combined cover 270m pops natively, but CDMA only isn't there yet. Verizon covers about 255-260m pops natively. I think ATT is around 270m pops native, but they're turning off analog, so not sure on the latest. Roaming for all is over 290m pops if I recall.

But was it worth the merger? Sprint probably should have merged with Alltel.

xenophon

join:2007-09-17
reply to cpayne5
Re: bets deal

However it appears that Verizon will charge 50cents/MB over 5GB. Sprint is truly unlimited.


jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs:
they also are truly screwed.


Neyland

join:2003-02-04
USA
T-Mobile Home Hotspot

Nice thing about T-Mobile is they have phones that use the home hot spot that switches you to Wi-Fi when your at home and routes via VOIP without using mins.


bent
not broken
Premium
join:2004-10-04
Loveland, CO
clubs:
·Comcast Formerly ..

Cricket

I've had unlimited wireless for years, at a price point about half of what Sprint is charging. My cell phone provider is still around, so they must not struggling too badly.

For about $65/mo, I get unlimited local, 500 mins LD, 100 mins roaming on Verizons network, and unlimited sms, pix, and data. Fits me perfectly, and costs about the same as a landline. No Brainer.
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patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

Voice is a rip off nowadays

Cell companies laugh all the way to the bank with voice service and SMS. SMS, 15 cents for 150 bytes. HAHAHHAHAA Thats $700,000 to move 1 CD (700MB) worth of text messages.

Lets see what 31 days of chatting on your cellphone is.

(9.6/1024/8) * 60 * 60 * 24 * 31 = 3138.75 MB
9.6 Kbit per sec using »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EVRC worst case scenario. I love how every couple years they introduce a new lower bitrate codec that promises "better quality", and makes it only harder to understand anything from a cellphone. Also the way these codecs are designed, they basically match your voice to only syllables ("codebooks"), and then send your syllables. Try playing Top 40 music through a cellphone one day to prove this. Smart isn't it? and as the bandwidth decreases, one day your phone will just have a copy of »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Nat···Speaking one day. And a computer read out system at the other end. The data trasmitted over the cellphone network is actually Gzip'ed english text. Better not try using a different language, this is AMERICA!

Anyways, so, having a cellphone call for 31 days streight, and you eat 3.1GB of traffic, heh, thats less than Verizon's EVDO cap of 5GB. Remember your using as much bandwidth as a modem from V.32 modem from 1993.

Thats also a reason why cellphone providers don't want low latency internet on cellphones. They are scared someone will commercialize a VOIP cellphone, that sends data at a jaw dropping 64 kbit/s, compared to existing cellphone networks. It would be end of the world for network engineers or the CEOs that sign off on upgrades.

xenophon

join:2007-09-17
reply to jgkolt
Re: bets deal

^Yes, Verizon users are. If they go to 6GB, that's an extra $500 bill.
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