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Comments on news posted 2008-02-25 08:59:23: Pakistan's attempts to censor YouTube resulted in the video-sharing website going offline on Sunday, with YouTube owner Google blaming the country for "erroneous internet protocols" originating from Pakistan. ..

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 An accident or Pakistan sending a msg to Google ?

It may very well have been an accident by some network admin in Pakistan that doesn't know his job very well. Or, given Pakistan's fundamentalist bent, they may have been sending Google a message for having refused to delete the Muhammad cartoons on YouTube.
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I'm thinking accident. Would someone really do something like this on purpose knowing it would be notcied big time?


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Great!

So now it is possible for some turd world country to singlehandedly take down a major website. Why haven't we seen more of this sort of thing happening to other websites?
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Go ahead and take down a bunch of "websites", no problem. Now if we're talking about "web sites", that's another story.


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crap

They have declared jihad on themselves.

>>>Apparently the country of Pakistan had to be taken offline while the entire mess was sorted out.

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You know, I was thinking the exact thing. If it is that easy, what sort of a house of cards have we built?

I'm curious if everything had been in IP6, if it would have been a problem? Doesn't IP6 include some authentication mechanisms that are absent in IP4?


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Censorship

Another plug for separation of church and state.
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They have declared jihad on themselves.

>>>Apparently the country of Pakistan had to be taken offline while the entire mess was sorted out.
I say we just leave them offline.
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Censorship, got to love it.

LOL, And people want the UN to be in charge of DNS.


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Eh, Whatever

Pakistan is free to block Youtube to its citizens. It's abhorrent, but not surprising.

Regarding the 'hijacking', if the country continues to have accidents like this, they'll soon find themselves on a network of their own when foreign providers start refusing to peer with the troublemakers.
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Another plug for separation of church and state.
Yes, the separation of church and state must be enforced to assure unfettered access to funny cat videos for all.


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interesting

»blogs.zdnet.com/threatchaos/?p=548
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Evidently PieNet took this step to enforce a decree from the Pakistani government that ISP’s must block access to YouTube because it was a source of blasphemous content.
I wonder if people object to the access blocking, or think it's OK but just done "for the wrong reasons" or "by the wrong people".
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Wrong BGP advertisement

From the description offered here. It appears that the Pakistan ISP injected the route through BGP to the internet and it did not get filtered by the upstream provider. It looks like that upstream provider doesn't have any good filtering policies whatsoever as it let this go through.

Unfortunately, there is nothing that can be done to really stop this problem as this is an actual limitation of BGP.
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offensive material on youtube? i for one think the only offensive thing on youtube is that chocolate rain video


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I'm curious if everything had been in IP6, if it would have been a problem? Doesn't IP6 include some authentication mechanisms that are absent in IP4?
From what I can conclude... IPv6 is the gallium arsenide of the network world... like the "semiconductor of the future... always has been, and always will be."

As for authentication... I would hope that there is a better way to secure IP address blocks... or else we are in for a lot worse trouble.
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Now you know why the fiber was cut

Not as some spy thing or because we were tapping lines, it was to cut off the nefarious western influences of YouTube.


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said by quatrix See Profile :

Go ahead and take down a bunch of "websites", no problem. Now if we're talking about "web sites", that's another story.
website is a legitimate spelling as an alternate to "web site".
»www.thefreedictionary.com/website
»dictionary.reference.com/browse/website
»www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/website
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Red herring

President of Pakistan and the ruling cadre weren't too keen on open media; there were some videos of undercover voting "irregularities" during the election.

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you tube is offensive

Now just think about all the spam the you tube admins will have to put up with including a million threats of beheading the islamic way. I pity those poor bastards. Seems like the 3-billion dollar aid we give to pakistan was effectively used to curb freedom of expression. Wounder if dubya would be implementing similar technology during his tenure
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