TKJunkMail
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
 ·Comcast
|  Verizon never competed on price
Their ace in the hole as far as I am concerned is their network coverage. Living in the Mid-Atlantic region, their network coverage was always way better than AT&T(nee Cingular), Sprint, and T-Mobile. I initially tried AT&T, and their coverage in the areas I frequented was horrible. A friend had Sprint and complained constantly. And my sister and her family had T-Mobile(my nephew worked for them) and they constantly were dropping calls. So, when the time came, Verizon was the only reasonable choice. A cheap plan is worthless if the calls are being dropped.
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PolarBear
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join:2005-01-03 | The war IS on
As I've said before, the wireless price war IS on. The wireless companies are fighting to see just how high they can raise their prices and still keep customers. So far, nobody is winning. |
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gworkman7
join:2005-10-18
Vail, AZ
 ·PHONE POWER
·magicjack.com
 ·Qwest.net
·Broadvox Direct
| The "war" is already over
None of the carriers will vary on pricing. If you compare plans against all carriers, they basically offer the same minutes/features at the same price. Notice that AT&T put their pricing on line as well. Guess what...family share of unlimited minutes is also $99 for second line. These guys are not creative at all. The only competitive plans out there are Sprint SERO. |
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Nerdtalker
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join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ
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Re: Verizon never competed on price
Granted, what everyone fails to mention is that the providers generally sign roaming contracts with one another, so that sprint phone may have actually worked on Verizon's network if your friend did a PRL update (if ever).
As it stands right now, I can force-roam my 30/month Sprint SERO phone on Verizon and use the same "gold-standard" network (which honestly is underwhelming for me) and EvDo 3G data, for cheaper.
The FCC is going to change the laws regarding what information if any the carriers are forced to report on what specifically the PRLs contain, as well as street-level signal quality data that fits industry-wide specification. We're talking street level SNR data instead of worthless three-gradation (excellent good poor) maps. As soon as we get that, we can stop having anecdotal "my network is better than yours because of X" arguments and really sit down and figure out who is better where. Nobody is best everywhere, and the sooner that's public domain information, the better. As far as I'm concerned, anecdotal evidence is pointless, it's why I did my own site-survey in the areas I care about (work, home, frequent places) by flashing the PRLs of all the CDMA carriers on my old XV6700 HTC Apache (while using my HTC Mogul as my live phone). It's a sad state when the customer has to do this to get the nitty gritty on what "best," "great," and "good," mean on the provider signal-map.
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
| Same Shit Different Name
From what I've seen, there isn't any single wireless carrier standing out from the herd. In terms of price/quality, they're all the same. Maybe you save pennies here and there, but essentially, you pay for clones whose service varies depending on how much you bitch. |
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TKJunkMail
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ | reply to Nerdtalker
Re: Verizon never competed on price
Wasn't there a thread a while ago where carriers(and I don't know if Sprint does this) were dropping users who roamed too much? |
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Nerdtalker
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join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ
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| There was one rather heinous example where Sprint was dropping some people who were roaming overseas too much (they were soldiers if memory serves me), but I'm not concerned in the least.
At the very least, Sprint doesn't have transparent bitcaps on data usage like Verizon does. I tether my phone every day to whatever I want, I've done way more traffic than should be humanly possible over my HTC Mogul. 
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RadioDoc
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You'll see that in just about every contract. Use more than "most" of your minutes outside your home market and they can (1) terminate the account, (2) charge per-minute/kilobyte fees and/or (3) switch you to a more expensive plan.
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jgkolt
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
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it all depends on your area. usually verizon was pretty good but then i switched to t mobile since i couldnt get any coverage at my new place and tmobile was the only one. so it all depends on your area.
now verizon did copy sprint and offer the plan setting a price used before for unlimited. Att copied then tmobile. They have higher margins on data so they upped the overage charges and they compensate and make a killing.
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Boomerang86
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join:2002-10-18
VampireState
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·RoadRunner Cable
·VOIPo
·Time Warner VOIP
| Sprint may have them all beat...
»www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/811307/
$95 per month for 2 lines of sprint service, which includes unlimited voice, internet and text. $20 per each additional line.
The plan CODE is - FC2396
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rahvin112
join:2002-05-24
Sandy, UT
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Re: The "war" is already over
Sprint is going to have to lower prices to stop churn and increase their customers many of whom are disaffected by previous experiences. If it doesn't trigger a price war it's going to hurt subscriber numbers at all the other providers. My guess is V and ATT will resist price changes for a month or two after sprint drops prices but will eventually have to lower them as well to stop the loss of subscribers.
The cellular market is highly competitive and highly profitable, a ripe market for price wars. So far all the national providers have been complicit in raising prices because they have all been gaining subscribers until recently. Now that one of the top 3 (Sprint) is starting to hurt that will change, especially given that the total number of national subscribers is not growing at the rate it was and the only way to sustain growth is to steal subscribers from the other providers. Those conditions are what is required to start a price war, so V can deny it all they want but once it starts they will participate or their stock will drop more than it will because of the price war. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
1 edit | reply to PolarBear
Re: The war IS on
said by PolarBear  :As I've said before, the wireless price war IS on. The wireless companies are fighting to see just how high they can raise their prices and still keep customers. So far, nobody is winning. no truer words were ever spoken.
after my 2yr contract ran out about 6 months ago, I considered getting another contract but with a less expensive plan. I figured in 2 yrs prices must be cheaper, right? Nope. I could either get less minutes and pay about the same, some carriers a little higher; or same minutes (approx.) for a higher price.
cell service HAS NOT gotten cheaper over the last 2.5 yrs.
the company has a good retention policy: the second my contract ran out, I got a 15% discount on what I was paying.
forgot to mention: text plans also went up in price over that period. |
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA
1 edit | Crazy Ivan
He's trying to sink the whole ship  |
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OSUGoose
join:2007-12-27
Columbus, OH
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Re: The "war" is already over
Lower to keep? no. They still get that couple hundredhow dare you leave us fee when u break contract.
Attrack new customers? Yes but for some so unhappy with their old provider, anything resembeling them being better will snag them. |
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OSUGoose
join:2007-12-27
Columbus, OH
clubs: | reply to ninjatutle
Re: Crazy Ivan
Not sink, Verizon was allways know as the BMV of wireless services while sprent was the Geo metro (to steal a line out of comcast's book). |
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Seven1
join:2002-07-24
Lexington, KY
·Insight Communicat..
| CellularOne
This whole unlimited thing isn't entirely new. Over a year ago I got my ex-girlfriend a phone through CellOne that was on a plan where any calls made from a tower in this state were unlimited, for $50 per month. When you think about it, for the majority of us, how often do you leave your home state? Also, I distinctly remember seeing another plan they had like it for nationwide unlimited and it was $100 per month. It really was put to the test with her too. I recall one bill that showed she used over 7000 minutes, and they never said a thing. And the times that we left the state, we simply set her phone to forward calls to mine, which cost nothing extra. Oh, forgot to mention, no charges for roaming either (although, you never see that anymore anyway), and they seem to have really great coverage in this state. |
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lvlorpheus
join:2008-02-17
Eureka Springs, AR | reply to Boomerang86
Re: Sprint may have them all beat...
I called, and they told me it was just select areas. Needless to say my area or state for that matter is not 1 of them. |
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jammmin
join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD
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Re: Verizon never competed on price
said by TKJunkMail :Their ace in the hole as far as I am concerned is their network coverage. Living in the Mid-Atlantic region, their network coverage was always way better than AT&T(nee Cingular), Sprint, and T-Mobile. I initially tried AT&T, and their coverage in the areas I frequented was horrible. A friend had Sprint and complained constantly. And my sister and her family had T-Mobile(my nephew worked for them) and they constantly were dropping calls. So, when the time came, Verizon was the only reasonable choice. A cheap plan is worthless if the calls are being dropped. I echo those sentiments |
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rfreese
join:2007-05-29
Tallahassee, FL
·Embarq
| Including unlimited text
I only heard today that T-mobile had joined the fray. Their $99 unlimited plan inludes text and picture messaging, I think that beats the other two? Text is where the mobile bill can get out of hand.
Not that I can afford a hundred dollar cell bill! I'm staying with my cheapie 300 minutes with TMO because with the extra 500 minutes for call forward conditional that they give you but don't advertise, I can get by for $37 a month. |
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tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
1 edit | reply to OSUGoose
Re: Crazy Ivan
said by OSUGoose :Not sink, Verizon was allways know as the BMV of wireless services while sprent was the Geo metro (to steal a line out of comcast's book). Last time I looked at consumer reports.. BMW's didn't fare too well.  Maybe you should try another car?  |
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