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Comments on news posted 2008-02-27 11:10:46: Some time ago, Utah lawmakers decided they'd like to divide the Internet into an "adult content channel" and a "family content channel. ..

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moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
Won't happen

Sorry, but this wouldn't survive very long. What's next, censoring HBO, Showtime and Cinemax?


VashTS

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Diet!

I hate the way Diet tastes! Good old plain Crack Soda for me please

RadioDoc
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Unconstitutional?

Sounds like an unconstitutional interference in interstate commerce. They might not like Internet porn, but it is legal, and there are some non-porn sites (like agnostic or atheist sites) which I am sure some in Utah would consider "inappropriate" for a G rating.
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Dydion

join:2001-03-07
Baton Rouge, LA
Politicians

...are idiots. They are not tech-savvy at all. Back room blow jobs is all they really know about.

bgraham

join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY
·Verizon FIOS


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If Utah had it's own way

you could have three fourteen year old wives, but they don't want raunchy internet.

Really upstanding moral values.

Edit: Who would really want more than one wife...

old_wiz_60

join:2005-06-03
Bedford, MA
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Just try to define it

Just try to come up with a definition of porn. Let's see, they'd have to block uTube, Facebook, Flickr, and perhaps imdb.com. Don't forget P2P and Usenet.What about planned parenthood, breast health, WebMD? There is no such thing as general definition of it. It is a total waste of time and money.


johnwayne

join:2001-03-09
Bountiful, UT

Weirdoes

This is another way to take the responsibility away from parents and give them a reason not to teach their kids. I wish GOVERNMENT would pull their heads out and wake up. We don't need people to tell us what to do and what we should or should not view. It's our responsibility to take care of ourselves. If we want to destroy our lives with our actions its our decision not somebody else's.


fireflier
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But what about. . .

the children.

That phrase seems to be curiously missing in the overview of the article. I can't believe that hasn't been tossed out there yet.

Perhaps CP80 should consider gathering their supporters and moving out into the Utah wildernesss to live peacefully instead of trying to perpetually impose their values on others.
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KrK
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reply to old_wiz_60
Re: Just try to define it

said by old_wiz_60 See Profile :

Just try to come up with a definition of porn. Let's see, they'd have to block uTube, Facebook, Flickr, and perhaps imdb.com. Don't forget P2P and Usenet.What about planned parenthood, breast health, WebMD? There is no such thing as general definition of it. It is a total waste of time and money.
Plus every time they fouled up and censored something legit they'd face lawsuits, and everytime they fouled up and failed to censor something someone took offense at they'd get fined $10k. Ya, great law.

Plus there's matters of jurisdiction.... I don't see how this could work out. Thank goodness.
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hopeflicker
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reply to fireflier
Re: But what about. . .


Looks like they have it covered
said by fireflier See Profile :

the children.

This doesn't surprise me coming from this wacked out religious state.
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bogey780

join:2004-03-19
Here
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Re: Unconstitutional?

Exactly. This violates the interstate commerce clause not to mention it asks for a Herculean effort from the ISPs that more than likely would fail in all regards.


jgkolt
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gone is the common carrier

SO there will be no isp in untah that will operate because they would lose their common carrier status and be held liable for the data that flows over their network. Maybe att with their filter will go there and realize it wont be done.
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Transmaster
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reply to bgraham
Re: If Utah had it's own way

said by bgraham See Profile :

you could have three fourteen year old wives, but they don't want raunchy internet.
Really upstanding moral values.
Edit: Who would really want more than one wife...

The LDS doesn't go for multiple wife's thing any more but there are so called orthodox Mormons who do. Why? for the welfare payments. plural marriage's are not recognized so all of these "wife's" count as single parents and they get all kinds of goverment pay outs to take care of them and their children. Get 5 or 6 "wife's and their kids" together and the goverment money adds up to a substantial tax free income.
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Mr Matt

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Bringing Religion to the Internet

I guess the internet is not puritan enough. One persons obscene material is another persons educational material, particularly when it comes to science. Who defines what is obscene? This law reminds me of the methods of the Taliban. Will Utah establish a Morality Police and make violation of said law a Capital Offense?


Camelot One
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reply to moonpuppy
Re: Won't happen

I have been sitting here trying to come up with some sort of comment worthy of the group. But all that comes to mind is.....
"Hahahahahahahahaha.......dumbasses."
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hoyleysox

join:2003-11-07
Long Beach, CA
cottage industry

Get paid to break the filter!


NetFixer
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SCO is an obscenity

I wonder if Ralph Yarro has considered that for some of us in the IT industry the name SCO is now an obscenity?

If he wants to preach morality, perhaps he should have started by looking in the mirror.
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wruckman
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Hogwash

What a bunch of crap. What business does Utah have regulating the internet? Lets just change everything, JUST FOR UTAH! It is IMPOSSIBLE for a ISP to filter all porn content. No one would be able to get a seal of approval! And to hold a hotspot owner liable for some jackass using his connection, bull! This should be stopped in its tracks. This is a worldwide issue, not a state issue. Go pave roads! Don't regulate internet!
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openbox9

join:2004-01-26
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reply to Dydion
Re: Politicians

said by Dydion See Profile :

Back room blow jobs is all they really know about.
Apparently not in Utah since I'm sure that would violate their concept of decency.


woodward
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join:2000-12-28
Salt Lake City, UT

Clarification

Karl, you missed an important, and baffling, element of this bill. The "seal" created by the bill is entirely voluntary (and you are correct thinking, "Wait, a voluntary fine of $10k? That makes no sense.")

XMission is, of course, a vocal opponent of this legislation:

»peteashdown.org/journal/2008/02/···pproval/
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