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@qwest.net
| qwest hey ,you comcast people when can ??qwest get this 50/50 mbps speed .im drooling right now but in colorado i get only..8mbps. cmon now lets get realistic here. 50MBPs ??some body out here is pulling my legs. i got in trouble with this comcrap with the so-called sweetie c.s.r promising me keep my cable after i made an "agreement" with them and came over to my house and made a disocnnection with out telling me in the sunday morning.and after that i had a heart attack landing me in the hospital is this the way that big old monopoly ? comcrap does to people that doesnt keep their word??huh/. | |
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ja2007123
join:2007-10-06 | awsome if it is available here, good bye att! | |
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Achtzehn
join:2002-04-14
Downey, CA | 50/50 by 2010? And here I am stuck with 5/.512
And I probably will still have that for the next few years. I would kill for 3/3. | |
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Premium
join:2005-10-10
Mary Esther, FL | Re: 50/50 by 2010? ..and the rest of us will be shitted on. | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
 ·Comcast
| Re: 50/50 by 2010? said by robertfl  :..and the rest of us will be shitted on. Never know!
Here I am, in a non-Verizon area, and Comcast hit me with Blast. 
I wasn't expecting anything for quite some time...
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Jack2131
@comcast.net | Re: Data Stream This think looks as if it's got an "exploding" backup battery in it so as to possibly maintain phone service when power goes out. Very interesting! | |
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armyrebel4
Dream Chaser
Premium
join:2002-01-08
Springfield, IL | Brick? Is that modem big enough, that thing looks like the size of my phone I use at work! If it gets the job done, looks good to me.
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join:2000-11-21
·Charter Pipeline
| Re: Brick? said by armyrebel4 :Is that modem big enough, that thing looks like the size of my phone I use at work! If it gets the job done, looks good to me. Erik I was just about to ask if it doubles as a toaster! That thing is thick!! | |
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jimbo48
join:2000-11-17
Hayward, CA
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·EarthLink
| 50/50 by 2010 is that the odds of Comcast being in bu sines or showing up in my neighborhood? Sorry, I just don't believe that this outfit could roll out this to even a 1/4 of their customers much less 50%. Hmmm almost another 2 years- that's a lot of rate hikes for the present customers to pay. Heck they advertise their 16/2 their triple play bundles but they don't/can't deliver on any of it. I guess they're not done milking the present account base yet while delivering on sub-standard cable TV and marginal Cable Internet and no support. | |
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join:2002-09-08
Atlanta, GA | Re: 50/50 by 2010 I have NEVER gotten near the download or upload speed I pay for... If I had the option to change I would have to consider it. | |
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Xizer
join:2004-02-05
New York, NY | Golly Comcast! I can't wait to sign up for this brand new service, hit my bandwidth cap in a few hours, and get cut off! | |
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ARGONAUT
got ping?
join:2006-01-24
New Albany, IN | ouch! All the comcast candy is making my teeth hurt.
When the nods choke they'll just blame P2P. | |
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boognish
Premium
join:2001-09-26
Baton Rouge, LA
clubs: | Botnets on Comcast Just went up in price. You could do some damage with that kind of bandwidth.
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Rick
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
clubs: 
1 edit | This could be a nightmare for AT&T, "This could be a nightmare for AT&T",
It's nice to see in print finally here at BBR what I've been saying for the better part of 2 years now.
Warning..Warning..and Warning some more about the impending DOOM that is coming the way of the Telcos...and namely..
AT&T.
Their absolute refusal to act on this...to read the writing on the wall..
is going to be their undoing.
Over..and Over ..and over..I have said that Docsis 3.0 is coming at a blistering pace.
This rollout is for real..it is not the vaporware of days past with other providers.
The cable co's..and namely comcast..are ready.
They have laid their fiber for 10 years now and while it's still basically a pipe dream still for even Verizon..
Comcast..is ready.
50,000k speeds. Up..AND down. Is that what the story says above?
Tell me telco fanboys..how long will you remain loyal to AT&T when that happens?
1 second...3...5 maybe?
It is mindblowing to me to consider how AT&T has ignored this. They are getting decimated in the landline business...and now it will be broadband.
Tell me..what is left of them?
I fear that the death star is headed for one of the biggest super nova explosions the business world has ever seen.
You sure can't say I didn't warn them. | |
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Paladin
Sage of the light
join:2001-08-17
Chester, IL | Re: This could be a nightmare for AT&T, That will only happen if Comcast decides that they need to be a better corporate citizen. They have an opportunity to crush AT&T, but they need to stop with the Sandvine crap. | |
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Jovi
join:2000-02-24
Mount Joy, PA
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| Let's see I'll believe it when I see it. Hopefully no CAPS. I'd settle on 15/2 with no CAPS, and no price increase. And if we are lucky, by 2020 the CS reps will be competent by then and appointments won't be missed 3 times in 2 weeks and fixed sooner than 4 1/2 months.
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La Luna
Surviving Ashraful
Premium
join:2001-07-12
Warwick, NY
clubs: | How much... ....will Comcast charge for this? If I recall, when OOL was tossing around 50/50 with NARAD, the word was that the price would be in the $200 per month range. Of course that never happened, so who knows what the price really would have been. | |
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p2p
@spcsdns.net | limits? i had Comcast for 2 years. My avg. stats from couple bittorent trackers 2TB up and 1.5TB down. What limits are we talking about? | |
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daveberstein
join:2002-07-15
New York, NY
| Comcast denies again Folks
Dave Burstein here, the original source. Comcast has just emailed me I have it wrong. I believe I have it right. If you are a reporter or otherwise need to know, please email daveb ([at[} dslprime.com.
I'm research details and will follow up, but wanted to tell you this.
Dave Burstein | |
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anonomous
@comcast.net
| I hope my area is one of the lucky 20% of Comcast customers to see DOCSIS 3.0. We live 30-40 miles just outside of Atlanta. Where we are, FIOS isn't going to be here for A LONG WHILE. at&t U-verse just started testing in Alpharetta, 50-60 miles away from us, so we wouldn't be seeing that for awhile either(wouldn't get it anyway.  ). That being said, the odds are against us getting it. Hopefully, it will happen since the Atlanta Metro area is one of Comcast's bigger service areas, and it would be smart on their part since they'd be able to beat the competition(at&t, Verizon) to higher internet speeds in Atlanta. Heck, as it is now, Comcast is already the fastest HSI here in Atlanta! at&t's fastest:6Mbps down, 384Kbps up. Comcast's Fastest:8Mbps up, 1Mbps up... thats not including Powerboost! So I just hope and pray for DOCSIS 3.0 this year! | |
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daveberstein
join:2002-07-15
New York, NY
| Some more details Dave Burstein again.
A few answers to questions.
There are no production DOCSIS 3.0 modems with full upstream. I'm separately reporting that Motorola and others have prototypes in for testing at CableLabs and are hopeful to ship this year. We all know things like that, or Comcast's plans, sometimes run late.
The shared speed of the low end of DOCSIS 3.0 is 120-160 megabits. So it's misleading to say many people will get 100 or higher. Sharing, other wise known as stat muxing, works surprisingly well. My guess is that users will get 50 meg in both directions 95+% of the time. We'll only know when they get out to the field.
None of the other cablecos have announced anything beyond trials, and Comcast is only a quarter of U.S. homes. Every reason to think they will be slower.
Comcast has not said how they will price, etc. I don't think they've decided. The most likely is they will price high, although it's also possible they will choose to be aggressive. I've reported elsewhere that the difference in cost between a 50 meg connection and a 2 meg one is amazingly little, because bandwidth is rarely used in practice. But it's great to have when you need it.
Price and cost in U.S. broadband are often disconnected, because we only have two major providers.
Comcast: Over 10M homes passed with 50+ megabytes
50% 3.0 Coverage in 2009, fast upstream and down
Cable needs to upgrade to match Verizon FIOS, which will be running over 100 meg in both directions soon. The orders to CableLabs and the vendors were to get DOCSIS 3.0 into production, because has pulled away over a million customers. Roberts at Comcast promised 20% DOCSIS 3.0 in 2008, probably where they face off against FIOS. He now is adding 6M more homes in 2009, covering his Verizon footprint and going after AT&T in some territories. Chicago is a natural battleground, where they have already gone all digital.
Hollywood is moving extremely rapidly to send video direct. Go to ABC.com and watch Lost to see how good it looks. Folks like me are already shutting down their cable TV. FIOS is heavily taking customers and Ivan's goal to “get cable out of the home.” U-Verse is now production quality. Roberts says he's not afraid. “If we can't compete, shame on us.” They intend to a leader when the dust settles.
The Bells divided the U.S. into separate fiefdoms and never go out of territory for retail lines. The cablecos have done the same. Both would prefer to cut a deal, divide the customers, and keep prices high. It's also possible they will fight hard by cutting prices. The decision hasn't been made.
That's part of what I consider the key question in U.S. broadband the next 5-10 years. DOCSIS 3.0 was developed to give cable a chance against Verizon FIOS. Will they bring it to AT&T territory? The new modems are between 2 and 4 times faster on the downstream, and 20-50 times faster on the upstream, while costing about the same to deliver. There are two parts to this question: whether they will install pretty quickly (2009-2011, which now is looking quite possible) and whether they will price low to win customers or high to grow margins and maintain peace with AT&T.
Will they invest and build? Maybe, especially if FIOS keeps winning customers. Will they keep the price high or low? No one is telling me, probably because they haven't decided. If they come in high, telcos have some breathing room. If they price aggressively, any carrier without fiber to the home could be decimated. Bell Canada is watching Videotron, British Telecom needs to fear Virgin. There may be a reprieve because the technology hits bugs. But from what I hear of the TI chip, they are very close.
For now, Time Warner is under so much pressure from Wall Street they are afraid to spend on their network. Cox is a private company and isn't saying very much. We're all watching closely.
DOCSIS 3.0 With Upstream Likely Before Yearend
We've been disappointed before
DOCSIS 3.0 is designed to deliver 50 meg in both directions 95+% of the time, profoundly changing things. It was expected to ship widely in 2007, with Brian Roberts of Comcast telling me he'd deploy selected areas in 2007. Bob McIntyre of Scientific Atlanta thought that timing was realistic. Alas, the chips weren't ready. The current word on the street is we'll see downstream only in 2008, with upstream not supported until 2009.
Alan Lefkof at Motorola is optimistic things will go faster. His new SB6120 supports channel bonding of up to four downstream channels and four upstream channels, which allows an operator to offer its customers advanced multimedia services with downstream data throughput approximating 160 Mbps (shared) in DOCSIS mode and 195 Mbps in Euro-DOCSIS mode.. Motorola makes clear that their DOCSIS 3.0 CPE is also fully compliant with upstream channel bonding. DSL Prime believes that CableLabs will soon release new certification results for DOCSIS 3.0. Units, if certified soon, would probably ship in the second half of 2008. "
TI's chip inside the Motorola modem is looking good. They have the bonding at the physical layer working. There's plenty more software and firmware to complete, and all the practical problems of a new chip in a new product. Dennis Rasmussen, who once wrote a book on DSL, is the TI lead for cable modem chips. | |
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tigernike23
join:2006-03-26
Decatur, IL | Cost..... Come on, this has to be at least $90/mo, right? | |
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| 50/50 With Fios Next week Verizon will continue to beat them on speed time and time again.
Comcast will eventually have to either go FTTH or FTTN to provide consistent speeds. Unfortunately FTTN may not work for comcast since the N portion in many cases is a tapped main cable run in neighborhoods vs a junction box where cables run from.
In either case copper will always have quality issues.
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join:2006-07-21 | only if hackin a cable modem wasnt a federal offense im sure everybosy would hack ther modem config file | |
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