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Comments on news posted 2008-02-27 16:28:47: CNET's Declan McCullagh says the Senate is considering a bill that would make phishing illegal. The only problem? It already is. ..

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pnh102
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 Good Grief

Hey Teddy... do the GOP a favor... either resign now, or don't run for re-election.

You are among the many shining reasons as for why we need Congressional term limits!
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 Phishing part not needed; but domain registration needs chgs

I think the phishing part of the bill is a waste of time. Like the BBR news item says: it is already illegal.

But I do think having domain registrations give true info(and that includes street addresses), or you don't get one, would be a good idea. It would seriously put a major dent on all these domains owned by criminal groups. But, of course, it would need more than US law. It would need ICANN to enforce the same stds.
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Re: Good Grief

said by pnh102 See Profile :

Hey Teddy... do the GOP a favor... either resign now, or don't run for re-election.
It is the residents of Alaska that keep returning him to Washington. At least he is no longer committee chairman.

Maybe someone needs to "send him an Internet" but from his previous speeches that takes several days so there is probably no point in it.


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said by n2jtx See Profile :

It is the residents of Alaska that keep returning him to Washington. At least he is no longer committee chairman.
I know.

That's why all I can do is sit here and whine about it. But I can't blame the people of Alaska for sending this guy back. He (like every other well-entrenched incumbent) keeps bringing home the bacon.
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Somebody tie this guys tubes!!

mlundin

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No one would ever...

lie about their name, phone number, address, etc. if it were illegal...

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Re: Phishing part not needed; but domain registration needs chgs

I would whole heartily disagree with address phone number thing for domains. There's an expect security that we all should have. You never know who on the net could show up at your biz or house. That in its self is frighting. As usual the spammers will lie and will get away with it, us sheep will follow the herd provided by our "gov". If bills like this keep coming we may end up with a law that says when posting on a forum you must include your Real name, address, phone number and your SSN.

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Re: Good Grief

This old fart offends me, ever since the "tubes" crap he spewed up.
If you don't know shit about something you shouldn't be preaching like you do, much less trying to change it.

This is another reason why I'm happy to see someone not over the age of 60 running for presidency. Congress is full of OLD idiots with no "real world" experience.
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Re: Phishing part not needed; but domain registration needs chgs

There needs to be a balance between privacy and public disclosure. Maybe a proxy system whereby someone puts a valid contact for someone who will vouch for the authenticity.


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I think information should be accurate. No problem with that being law.

I don't believe though that it should be public information. Such as part of some "who is" database.

If someone wants it, they will have to go to the court and get authorization for getting the information.

But I don't think people should be able to provide bs information to a hosting company in an effort to hide.
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reply to youngmoore
On the other hand if the spammers and scam artists who benefit most from stealth domain registrations, never knew which of their victims might show up on their doorstep with a 10 gauge shotgun...
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reply to youngmoore
I think you are off base. I think domain entries should be accurate and public. If it scares you to have the infomation out there then maybe running public services isnt for you. The only reason to obfuscate domain information is to empower spammers. At the very least there should accurate information for reporting an abusive domain to a host so as to have it shut down. All spam electronic and real world need to be stopped. They both waste all sorts of resources.


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The End of Fishing in Alaska

For some reason, I think Stevens will misunderstand phishing and try to stop commercial fishing.

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Dear Ted:

I would have thought that you'd learned not to go sticking your nose into that which you know absolutely nothing about, particulary since you were the laughingstock of the Internet for quite awhile after the "tubes" incident. But then I realized that cluelessness pretty much encompasses your ::ENTIRE:: life and career, so no surprise here now.

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Re: Phishing part not needed; but domain registration needs chgs

I have to disagree. I hate spam as much as anyone. Maybe more since we host email servers and I fight it daily. But my own info out there for anyone to see on the net, I think not and I'm not comfortable with that and I'm about as far as a spammer as you can get. Just because I like my privacy doesn't make me, my company, or my family "spammers" Nice try though. You don't see the CEO's of ATT or Comcast personal info up on who-is but your expecting anyone even personal website owners to have their full Name/Address/Phone numbers. Come on man get serious.

ym

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The Information Is Already Out There

There's already a web site that gives out as much information about domain registrants as possible. See this thread: »Domain Registration Details Freely Available On the Internet.
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youngmoore

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Re: Phishing part not needed; but domain registration needs chgs

kfsutops has a good idea. Netfixer, the spammers will Lie anyway so they will never see a problem "most likely".
Ontop of that the most spam we see comes from Eastern block and Asia pac so US law wouldn't apply.

ym

dantc

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That's actually how it worked until fairly recently. Being able to use a registrar's address or other blocking features is a relatively recent development.


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said by bogey780 See Profile :

There needs to be a balance between privacy and public disclosure. Maybe a proxy system whereby someone puts a valid contact for someone who will vouch for the authenticity.
I think thats a good idea, the proxy could be the registrar.
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