cork1958
Cork
join:2000-02-26
Fruitport, MI
1 edit | Uhh! OK!!
This is definitely a hurry up and wait situation here! |
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BIGDOG_3
join:2002-09-27
Belleville, WI | Surprise! Charter is behind. |
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MrMaster
What If
Premium
join:2000-12-16
Austin, TX
clubs: | Charter does suck but at least they are saying something
At least they said something. Has TW announced their long term plans outside of possibly cappping?
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One never notices what has been done; one can only see what remains to be done. -Marie Curie |
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jeffro
join:2007-04-20
Holland, MI | They say actual deployment in 2009. I say 2015. |
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markopoleo
join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
 ·Charter Pipeline
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Re: Uhh! OK!!
said by BIGDOG_3  :Surprise! Charter is behind. Actually, they are not behind, they do offer faster service that lots of DSL providers, and still faster than lots of cable providers.
What good is providing it if you just offer speeds that other standards could do easy enough.. |
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DHRacer
Fire Survivor
join:2000-10-10
Lake Arrowhead, CA | If they aren't bought by then
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Charter is definitely never going to be a market leader.
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Jerm
join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
1 edit |  All this negativity...
I admit, I like bashing on Charter too sometimes. The past performance in my area was pretty sub-par in years past, but in recent times they have really gotten their act together.
What is different about Charter vs Comcast? Well I for one actually think Charter may be BETTER than Comcast! Oh noes - that statement totally goes against BBR rulahs!!! omgwtfbbq1@#$!@#$
REASONS WHY CHARTER IS BETTER THAN COMCAST:
A. They do not throttle/block/reset or in any way inhibit torrents.
B. NO CAPS!
C. For better (in my mind) or worse, PowerBoost doesn't exist (yet) with Charter. This is actually okay with me because it won't throw off speed tests or allow them any excuse not to give me full bandwidth. In my opinion, PB becomes a detriment in heavily loaded areas because even though the "peak" speed may seem acceptable (on speed tests) the actual sustained performance can be much less. PB is just a trick to allow them to oversell their nodes more. Now if you're in a Comcast customer in a lightly loaded area, PB can be a blessing - but in the loaded down area it just masks the true poor performance.
D. (and this one applies to me, but no all Charter areas) I get my full 10/1 connnection 24/7/365 with LOW latency that rarely fluctuates more than 1-2ms.
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If Charter can keep up with the "hands off" approach to throttling & caps, then Charter *may* atually end up having the best DOCSIS3 out there! |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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Re: Uhh! OK!!
said by markopoleo :said by BIGDOG_3 :Surprise! Charter is behind. Actually, they are not behind, Hmmmm.
"Comcast is leading the charge in DOCSIS 3.0 deployment, saying they'll have 20% of their footprint wired by the end of this year. "
"Charter says they'll start testing DOCSIS 3.0 technology in the second half of this year. Actual deployment won't occur until 2009."
What is your definition of "behind"? Because when someone else is ahead of you that means you are BEHIND. At least to me. |
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wingnut28
join:2008-01-22
Ellensburg, WA
·Charter Pipeline
| Charter not that bad
I am happy to see they are working towards DOCSIS 3.0.
Given the nearly half billion dollar loss last year, I hope they can afford it.
Charter could be better, but it is not that bad.
I live in a small town that doesn't always get the newer features (no video on demand yet, for example.) Still, they did a free upgrade from 3 to 5 mpbs, with only $5 a month more for 10mbs. I have had problems with their network keeping this speed, but right now it is very fast (although in a hour it may drop to under 1mbps.)
Consider the only other internet options are Clear-wire (gasp)
or local Fairpoint Communications DSL which provides 768kpbs/128kpbs for $39.95 a month or 1.5mps/512kbps for $69.95 but you HAVE to also by phone service to get this service at all. Rather than get local phone service I just use cell phones.
Their HD tv is nothing to brag about, but at least it is offered and they don't required 2 year contracts like some satellite companies do. For a town without much competition they do fairly well.
I still think our entire country needs some low cost service in the $10 to $20 a month range for those who can't afford $60 a month. Most places offer a lifeline phone service for low income people. Just like universal mail service united the country, lack of affordable internet access may be making us a nation of haves and have nots. As more people go under during the current recession, how many will have to drop their $100 to $150 a month cable tv and internet service? It seems many schools now assume you have internet access. Many public and government services are best accessed via the internet instead of driving to a local office (or perhaps not so local.)
If it WERE legal, I would happily let a few neighbors without internet access in on a small portion of my bandwidth (like 1mbs/128kbps) if I had a router that could enforce it. At that low speed those who can afford it would buy high speed, but those who couldn't and are next door could have some of mine. A volunteer program would avoid the support costs that make it uneconomic for big companies to provide low cost services. I still wonder why the local phone company can't charge under $20 for its very slow DSL.
Better yet, given the increased number of people dropping local wired phone connections, they should include it FREE with their phone service, and charge a little more for higher speeds.
(just the ramblings of an old man who first dialed into a computer at 10 characters per second with a teletype. Before that is was punched cards.)
Maybe I should run for office on a platform for internet access in every home instead of a chicken in every pot  |
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joker5656
join:2006-06-23
Dallas, GA | reply to BF69
Re: Uhh! OK!!
Comcast isn't the only cable company genius. there is several others plus all the smaller cable companies. so they are ahead of the game. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by joker5656 :Comcast isn't the only cable company genius. there is several others plus all the smaller cable companies. so they are ahead of the game. If you're in a race with 10 people and you come in second you are BEHIND someone. Please look up the definition of BEHIND. 2nd place is the 1st loser. Congrats Charter!
And no Comcast isn't the only cable company they only represent 27% of it. Sorrrrrry. |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to Jerm
Re: All this negativity...
said by Jerm :For better (in my mind) or worse, PowerBoost doesn't exist (yet) with Charter. This is actually okay with me because it won't throw off speed tests or allow them any excuse not to give me full bandwidth. In my opinion, PB becomes a detriment in heavily loaded areas because even though the "peak" speed may seem acceptable (on speed tests) the actual sustained performance can be much less. If you're on a oversubscribed node, powerboost doesn't activate. I know because im on a loaded node and have very seldomly gotten PB to activate.
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markopoleo
join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
·Charter Pipeline
| reply to BF69
Re: Uhh! OK!!
They are not behind, because while some claim to support it by "so and so year" they are still going to offer same speeds. Its the same with going from DOCSIS 1x to 2x.
Each standard can say "Up to So-and-so speed" improvement, but cable providers never will offer said speeds.
Pretty much all the DOCSIS press releases are just that..press releases that mean squat. |
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BF68
@charter.com
| reply to BF69
said by BF69 :What is your definition of "behind"? Because when someone else is ahead of you that means you are BEHIND. At least to me. That's great thinking BF69, that is, if Comcast and Charter were direct competitors. As usual sweetheart, your hatred of Charter has clouded your brain. |
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joker5656
join:2006-06-23
Dallas, GA | reply to BF69
I'm sorry you took the word BEHIND so literally but you get my point. behind in alot of peoples mind would be ATT since they won't spend money on fiber to the home. sometimes you can't help igronant people. |
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Monster Rain
Premium
join:2002-08-03
USA
| reply to DHRacer
Re: If they aren't bought by then
said by DHRacer :, , Charter is definitely never going to be a market leader. They are no Comcast, Cox, or TW in terms of customers. Why do they need to be a market leader? They are a pretty small company in the grand scheme of things. |
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Monster Rain
Premium
join:2002-08-03
USA | reply to BIGDOG_3
Re: Uhh! OK!!
said by BIGDOG_3 :Surprise! Charter is behind. Behind who? DSL? |
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vidmag
join:2004-12-05
Little Rock, AR | DOCSIS 0.0
Still waiting on Charter to add ANY speed HSI here... An improvement to nothing would be anything. |
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