nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
 ·Comcast
| the future of U.S. broadband
wow, the market is great isn't it - they seem to have decided that FTTH just isn't right for the U.S. Of course, the market is always right.
poor Verizon, I guess they'll be going out of business soon because they're wasting their money on fiber. |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY | waterfalls
DSL will run out of steam soon. Once cable footprints fully utilize docsis 2... DSL will be obsolete. I'm sure speakeasy, covad, and earthlink are heading for the junkyard as fiber and cable encroach their footprint. Embarq's days are numbered. |
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lostinthewest
@QWEST.NET | Aw Come on
The automobile (fill in ftth) will never take off. Why when you all already have a horse (fill in copper pair). |
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viperlmw
Premium
join:2005-01-25
 ·Qwest.net
| They may be waiting for prices to come down...
...which in both Qwest's and Embarq's situations, makes good business sense. Neither is small enough to get much, if any USF money, and are to spread out (rural) to pay for it themselves. Qwest is doing some fiber to the node stuff (Qwest appeares to be installing fttn in Boise, as a local example), and may be the backbone for some kind of fttp in the future. So while I consider it unfortunate that these 2 companies will not try the TV game for now, it still may happen down the road. |
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lostintheeast
@pacbell.net
| reply to lostinthewest
Re: Aw Come on
said by lostinthewest :
The automobile (fill in ftth) will never take off. Why when you all already have a horse (fill in copper pair).
lol, I agree.  |
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travelguy
join:1999-09-03
Santa Fe, NM
| reply to viperlmw
Re: They may be waiting for prices to come down...
said by viperlmw  :Qwest appeares to be installing fttn in Boise, as a local example And in Albuquerque and a few other cities... Haven't seen any public statements on availability to the general public though. |
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fcisler
Premium
join:2004-06-14
Riverhead, NY | Distance
Does anyone of these business' neglect to see the DISTANCE LIMIT of DSL as an issue?
I Have not been able to get DSL - in 6 houses, 6 towns. They aren't neighboring towns, either. |
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Hazy Arc
join:2006-04-10
Greenwood, SC
·Embarq
 ·Verizon Wireless B..
·Northland Cable Te..
 ·Dish Network
2 edits | Rural
Much of Embarq's market consists of rural areas in the United States. I don't blame them for making that kind of investment when it wouldn't be cost-effective for them. I'd like to see them take the money they would spend on FTTH and expand their DSL coverage to more rural areas.
After all, we have people living in rural areas who would pay an arm and a leg for 512kbps DSL while we are here bickering about fiber and 10mbps DSL not being fast enough. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| sigh
"We have our new portal.."
As soon as I read this I know this guy doesn't have a clue.
" we migrated to that includes our video store with 5000 movies, 5000 music videos and 1000 television episodes that our customers can pull down over the 10-Meg pipe."
So and ther are lots of other places I can get that stuff over your pipe too.
"There is a newer generation of customers that wants to see something when they want to see it.”
So? what does that have to do with you not wanting to provide higher than 10 Mbps. Maybe people don't want to have to wait hours for something. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to lostinthewest
Re: Aw Come on
So you believe that in the late 1800s it would have been economically feasible and worthwhile to produce a 70mph roadster? |
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ossito16
join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN
·RCN CABLE
| reply to Hazy Arc
Re: Rural
said by Hazy Arc :After all, we have people living in rural areas who would pay an arm and a leg for 512kbps DSL while we are here bickering about fiber and 10mbps DSL not being fast enough. You have a good point, I believe verizon also can see that customer satisfaction with Comcast & At&t is not good and it is not getting any better. If Verizon can build and penetrate key urban areas quickly enough they will definitely put a hurting on the big guys. I for one will switch the moment it is available in my neighborhood, if prices are reasonable and there is no ridiculous fine print in TOS attached to the service. |
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digitalfreak
join:2005-12-09
49533 | reply to tmc8080
Re: waterfalls
Don't you mean v3? |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
·Comcast
·Patriot Media
| said by digitalfreak :Don't you mean v3? V2 can carry quite a bit..
2.0 down --42.88 (38) Mbit/s up --30.72 (27) Mbit/s
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS#Speed_Table
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“Say no to fear. Don’t let anxiety crush your life. Live life free and unfettered.”
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast
| reply to bogey780
Re: Aw Come on
said by bogey780 :So you believe that in the late 1800s it would have been economically feasible and worthwhile to produce a 70mph roadster? No but a 40 mph roadster would have been great. oh wait people of the times said no one would ever need an auto too.
Oh my the world is a changing.
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"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to Hazy Arc
Re: Rural
said by Hazy Arc :After all, we have people living in rural areas who would pay an arm and a leg for 512kbps DSL while we are here bickering about fiber and 10mbps DSL not being fast enough. But ISPs don't want to provide those people with services. |
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Lee GWB
Yaco
Premium
join:2001-10-13
Allendale, NJ | It's the Economy
Stupid.............The dollar is worth crap right now.
Lee
PS
Not you Karl  or the article |
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tshirt
Premium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
·Comcast
| reply to nasadude
Re: the future of U.S. broadband
said by nasadude :... they seem to have decided that FTTH just isn't right for the U.S. Of course, the market is always right. Ummmm, maybe.
The market is right, if you have the financing to invest in FTTH (neither Qwest nor Sprint do)and you can afford to wait for the payback (neither Qwest nor Sprint can)
ADSL can fill-in some gaps, for a while anyway, and is quick and fairly cheap to deploy. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to BosstonesOwn
Re: Aw Come on
But even then with the lack of roadways, gas stations, and the cheapness of a horse...why pour a huge amount of money into making them? |
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nobody7
join:2001-01-30
Mayer, MN
| reply to Hazy Arc
Re: Rural
What happens when 4G operators decide to provide basic coverage out in those areas? WiMAX (and LTE once it is available) seems to be the real solution for last mile rural access. However neither Embarq or Qwest have spectrum to deploy unless they go with unlicenced bands. Sprint does but they look to b e deploying in cities first where they can take advantage of multipath to compete with cable speeds. |
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JohnNWPVNJMH
join:2007-03-26
Berkeley Heights, NJ
1 edit | FiOS is forcing others to inovate or raise the white flag!
I suppose the fact that since I signed up for FiOS both neighbors on each side of my home signed up .. the guy across the street and the house 1 house from his. FiOS is almost the majority provider on my street! This doesn't include the people I know that don't live in the neighborhood that have had FiOS installed or are currently on the waiting list for installation!
Some companies are actually jealous or fear they will need to invest in order to survive the competition that Verizon has caused and that is what it comes down to.
This is a perfect example on how a big company can indeed create competition as if Verizon was not as large as they were, they wouldn't have had the money for R&D and the deployment of this ground breaking 21st century infrastructure upgrade. The rest of the companies now will either need to cut their top brasses multi-million dollar sallaries and actually invest in some R&D or raise the white flag! |
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