  dhtlar
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from: dadkins  TKJunkMail 
| Oh, but I thought it would never happen?
Here's to the nay-sayers! Cheers to Comcast! |
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  Jack2131
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| Reach Your MONTHLY CAP in Less than a DAY
I wonder how long it'll take users to get warning letters from Comcast for "excessive" bandwidth usage if it's "unlimited". They'll make a fortune by going the "PAY by the GIGABYTE" scheme of service.  |
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 BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15 Everett, MA clubs:
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1 edit | reply to dhtlar Re: Oh, but I thought it would never happen?
said by dhtlar :
Here's to the nay-sayers! Cheers to Comcast! Yeah but notice its to head off a u-verse deployment.
The problem is the people at comcast won't give you that upgrade unless there is competition. That is just so against these nay sayers.
-- "It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" |
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  dhtlar
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| 100Mbps vs 10Mbps? Yeah, Comcast sure did the bare minimum there! Give me a break. Haha.
It's not like Comcast is deploying a brand new technology that's merely FTTN in 2008 with exploding batteries in their VRADs (AT&T anyone?). I'd also watch your words you never know how knowledgable a mere anon user may be.  |
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  dadkins Can you do Blu? Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
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1 edit | reply to BosstonesOwn Guess what! I have Comcast 16meg service but there is no FiOS and no U-Verse - explain that! ------------------------------ We're Sorry
AT&T U-verse service is not available for this address or phone number as entered ------------------------------ Meanest thing here to "compete" with Comcast is AT&T DSL(*NOT* U-Verse) @ 6mbps. My previous 8mbps Comcast was plenty to hose AT&T DSL.
Yet, here I am...
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  Rick Premium,MVM join:2001-02-06 Waterbury, CT clubs: 
1 edit | Interesting..
So...what I've been a)cautioning about b)suggesting was very quickly happening...and c)outright issuing continuing dire predictions about here at BBR..
is now all coming true.
Rick..just that lone voice out here in the BBR wilderness saying...you better watch out to the telco industry. Saying..that docsis 3.0 is too damn easy to roll out now for a cable industry that has spent 100 billion bucks in 10 years on fiber/coax..
Saying it's too damn cheap for them to do it in comparison to everything else they've already spent...
Saying..it IS coming on fast..and in a big way.
Listen folks. That WILL be enough of the self congrats because that's not what I'm about. What I am about however..and what we should ALL be about..is discussing the now huge potential ramifications of this. And literally..how it can impact this country and these industries as a whole.
We should be about ELEVATING this conversation..and not some cable versus telco fanboy discussion.
I have talked about what is happening repeatedly..because I simply have seen it coming..and believe it is huge. I believe it is the BBR scoop of the CENTURY.
Here are the questions I pose to you. And I'm telling you..I don't have the answers myself. I'm just trying to look ahead here at how this can impact the entire industry in a big way..really fast.
We've ALREADY seen Comcast CEO Roberts demoing this at 150,000k speeds. As to what Comcast will do with this when it's rolled out remains to be seen..but IMHO..we are looking at 50,000k + speeds potentially..VERY quickly.
What is happening here is that the U.S. is finally catching up to the rest of the world in terms of speeds..and what consumers can expect.
And that is a GREAT thing.
I'm trying REAL hard to not mutter that A^^ word..but the other bigger question is..what then happens..to them?
Verizon..I'm not as concerned about. Because somewhere back when in the last 2 years ..i think they sat down and thought this through..the way I did when I started talking bigtime about this here on this site.
But what is going to happen when 50,000K + becomes the standard..and some other company who I won't name in this post..is running along at 1/40th those speeds for dsl and 1/5th on their next generation service?
Combine that with the landlines issue...and how the cable co's are growing there.. and folks..we have a VERY legitimate topic here to discuss..
and perhaps..the biggest BBR scoop of all time.
Again..I will state my position emphatically. I am in support of COMPETITION.
I am NOT a cable "fanboy"..and reject that label.
I simply think that what is occurring here business wise..is huge. And technology wise..it's even bigger.
Because unless that other company who I won't name here decides..like yesterday..that they are suddenly in this game..
they are going to lose this game.
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 lew_jean
join:2005-05-13 Marietta, GA | reply to Jack2131 Re: Reach Your MONTHLY CAP in Less than a DAY
I will keep my stable AT&T 6/1M internet over Comcast. THey can offer 1G and unless you are downing movies, songes, or big files you will not notice the differance
just my 2 cents |
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 BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15 Everett, MA clubs:
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| reply to dadkins Re: Oh, but I thought it would never happen?
Yeah and I am sure close by there is a fios deployment.
Look at the Mass fios map and all the fios cities can get the 16 meg pack , why can't I being 1 city over ? My head end is in a city with fios. If I snipe the tftp server I can grab the config for the tier though.
Comcast should roll it out in every area. I really can't stand this less then regional shit they heave. Same head end , one city has fios the other don't oh lets feed the one city a higher speed. Comcast in this area blows , they can't do anything right. Even cable tv here is flaky. -- "It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" |
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  ib50MbSoon Formerly TwoKDialup Premium join:2002-06-07 Coloma, MI
| reply to dadkins said by dadkins :Guess what! I have Comcast 16meg service but there is no FiOS and no U-Verse - explain that! Exactly! Same here, all I can get from T is mediocre dialup...yet Comcast service rocks. -- Comcast has spoiled me rotten! |
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  dadkins Can you do Blu? Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
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| reply to BosstonesOwn Look pal, this is the Bay Area. There is *NO* FiOS here!
Feel free to search til you puke for FiOS in Hercules California...  -- Think outside the Fox... Opera |
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 BosstonesOwn
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| reply to Rick Re: Interesting..
First , we aren't catching up. They are not going to offer 100 mbit unless they have to. It's all about cost. Giving a subscriber access to all the bandwidth they can crush a node or a pop.
These guys will offer 20 / 2 and say see we make users happy, while verizon went symmetrical. At&t forget , they make so much off business they could care less about u-verse, they own a huge footprint of a captive audience. They will not die because of the phone lines they have.
What you will see those little guys roll out , qwest embark , sprint to an extent , at&t is vdsl as far away from the pop as possible. Whether we like it or not , the people out in the further then suburbs just won't be getting any speed. Or not even possibly a net connection other then dial up. They will roll out vdsl in hopes of keeping customers happy by keeping things cheap. The cable co's will not lower rates , they have already shown they won't. -- "It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" |
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  ptrowski Got Helix? Premium join:2005-03-14 Putnam, CT clubs: | reply to Rick No one takes it to a telco vs cable besides yourself and the continued AT&T bashing.
That being said, I don't really see much news here. We know that cable companies will be rolling out Docsis 3 deployments. |
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  gate1975mlm Premium join:2001-09-30 Philadelphia, PA
1 edit | reply to dadkins Re: Oh, but I thought it would never happen?
said by dadkins :Guess what! I have Comcast 16meg service but there is no FiOS and no U-Verse - explain that! ------------------------------ We're Sorry AT&T U-verse service is not available for this address or phone number as entered ------------------------------ Meanest thing here to "compete" with Comcast is AT&T DSL(*NOT* U-Verse) @ 6mbps. My previous 8mbps Comcast was plenty to hose AT&T DSL. Yet, here I am... Config file d11_m_sb5100_speedtierextreme2_c01.cm Same here 
I also have 16meg service but there is no FiOS yet in philly! |
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 BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15 Everett, MA clubs:
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| reply to dadkins »www.fiberexperts.com/california-fios.html
Yeah , a desolate landscape. Being so close to richmond , you don't benefit from competition from the nearest fiber providers. -- "It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" |
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  dadkins Can you do Blu? Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
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| reply to ib50MbSoon Yeah, some people are in for a VERY rude awakening!
Comcast does not just sit on their ass and do nothing. They have started lighting up all kinds of areas BEFORE any "competition" existed.
I had 6mbps before there was anything near 3mbps from any DSL provider. I had 8mbps before there was 6mbps was available from any DSL provider. Now, I have 16mbps(17.3 actual) and all there is as an alternative is AT&T DSL @ 6mbps.
Eat this Anti-Comcasters!
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 BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15 Everett, MA clubs:
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| reply to gate1975mlm Yeah comcasts home market and there is fios near you.
Simple question, why can't any one not surrounded by fios or a faster competing service get these speeds ? Why can't some in say new hampshire get the speeds unless fios is in the area ?
This me too shit with maybe 8 exceptions is really not the point. Some times i think guys like dadkins and you just like to pat themselves on the back about beating a market by luck and location. -- "It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" |
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  dadkins Can you do Blu? Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
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| said by BosstonesOwn :Simple question, why can't any one not surrounded by fios or a faster competing service get these speeds ? I have 16mbps and no competition... as I stated above.  If you cannot get it where you are - uhm, sorry!  -- Think outside the Fox... Opera |
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 BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15 Everett, MA clubs:
·Comcast
| reply to dadkins said by dadkins :Yeah, some people are in for a VERY rude awakening! Comcast does not just sit on their ass and do nothing. They have started lighting up all kinds of areas BEFORE any "competition" existed. I had 6mbps before there was anything near 3mbps from any DSL provider. I had 8mbps before there was 6mbps was available from any DSL provider. Now, I have 16mbps(17.3 actual) and all there is as an alternative is AT&T DSL @ 6mbps. Eat this Anti-Comcasters! When I see it on a foot print bigger then spots of bubble gum stuck to a wall ill take it seriously. Other then small beauty marks these guys have not widely rolled out your speeds. Verizon has , at&t is just really a lost cause , 25 mbit and that is shared is just not going to cut it in the future.
I give comcast credit for these small bubbles , but the small foot print fios has , at least they offer tops speeds every where serviced. -- "It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" |
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  Haste
join:2001-06-08 Oak Brook, IL
| reply to ptrowski Re: Interesting..
said by ptrowski :No one takes it to a telco vs cable besides yourself and the continued AT&T bashing. That being said, I don't really see much news here. We know that cable companies will be rolling out Docsis 3 deployments. It was discussed that a lot of people thought this would never happen and that Comcast merely drags their feet, so to speak. It's nice to see a quick and speedy DOCSIS 3.0 deployment. It's a win win for everyone. |
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  dadkins Can you do Blu? Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
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| reply to BosstonesOwn Re: Oh, but I thought it would never happen?
Ok pal, show me Richmond...
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