Gilitar
join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL | Dump Nextel
Sprint really needs to spin off Nextel and cut their loss. The T-Mobile/Sprint merger idea is almost as bad as the Sprint/Nextel merger. |
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needforspeed59
Cruise Ship Just Passing Through
join:2001-05-02
Glendale, AZ
| Good one!
"Besides, we're almost 100% positive that Sprint is merging with Monsanto and getting into the genetically-modified crop business."
Ok, that is funny! 
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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
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join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
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Re: Dump Nextel
I agree they need to dump nextel |
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baddealsemerge
@verizon.net
| sprint screwed nextel
sprint screwed nextel, and the company who gains from that loss is verizon. they have push to talk which will give verizon nextel's loyal high volume business base and nextel is now screwed since they are now losing this customer base in droves and it's primarily sprint's fault. you need to keep in mind, when you lose ONE business customer to verizon, your losing dozens more, since the systems aren't inter-operable.
sprint & tmobile have less systems/technology in common so a merger would make even less sense than sprint/nextel. the other problem is tmobile is a low cost carrier (seemingly) of last resort.. customers are looking for good deals for low buckets of minutes dirt cheap.. and guess what? if sprint merges with tmobile.. that customer base will go elsewhere.. probably at&t.. even though that's the last thing I'd want to happen.. at&t doesn't deserve the extra customers. |
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PhoenixDown
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join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
clubs:  | reply to Gilitar
Re: Dump Nextel
Too late to spin of nextel -- and the value of nextel at this point is purely their spectrum, which Sprint could use if they ever get a plan together. |
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AZ_OGM
join:2007-01-12
Phoenix, AZ | Hell No
April Fools Day is still over three weeks away. The mere thought of T-Mobile buying that cancer of a company makes my skin crawl. |
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hottboiinnc
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join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
 ·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| TM and Sprint
TM could take over easily. The only thing they'd really have to do is convert the Sprint CDMA network to GSM. Not a big deal there just lots of $$$ give a shut off date for the CDMA system- like all new contracts are signed under TM's GSM. Actually shut down the iDEN network and convert those users to the TM GSM as well.
The only thing thats left is the MVNOs that use Sprint's network. TM could convert the network without a problem. Cellular One went from CDMA to GSM then was picked up by AT&T. You just have to upgrade is stages.
This would be great for TM but then there goes the roaming agreements for VZ, and Alltel who both use Sprint. |
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bobjohnson
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join:2007-02-03
Titusville, FL
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·RoadRunner Cable
| said by hottboiinnc  :TM could take over easily. The only thing they'd really have to do is convert the Sprint CDMA network to GSM. Not a big deal there just lots of $$$ give a shut off date for the CDMA system- like all new contracts are signed under TM's GSM. Actually shut down the iDEN network and convert those users to the TM GSM as well. The only thing thats left is the MVNOs that use Sprint's network. TM could convert the network without a problem. Cellular One went from CDMA to GSM then was picked up by AT&T. You just have to upgrade is stages. This would be great for TM but then there goes the roaming agreements for VZ, and Alltel who both use Sprint. I don't personally think that t-mo would want all that trouble and they would lose millions of the iden and cdma subs on a takeover and they wouldn't switch to t-mo most likely... I know this is a rumor but it just seems out of reach for a gsm based company to aquire the mess at sprint |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| well iDEN is set to shut down soon anyway. so there would be no big lose there. thats why the new phones came out and q-chat should be seeing deployment over the phones to bridge everything together.
as far as using CDMA over GSM id take the GSM any day. I love the option of taking a simcard out of the phone and putting it in a new one without having to reprogram the phone with your information and can use a friends phone if your's dies (as long as they have the same carrier of course).
I could see TM taking over and redoing the entire company. iDEN should be shut down with the problems it causes Emergency workers, and CDMA needs to be replaced with the new GSM.
Although anyone taking over Sprint should be a a carrier like MetroPCS or Revol Wireless (www.revol.us) and turn them into a large flat rate company nation wide using their current pricing. |
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Pirate515
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join:2001-01-22
Brooklyn, NY
1 edit |  reply to hottboiinnc
said by hottboiinnc :TM could take over easily. The only thing they'd really have to do is convert the Sprint CDMA network to GSM. Not a big deal there just lots of $$$ give a shut off date for the CDMA system - like all new contracts are signed under TM's GSM. Actually shut down the iDEN network and convert those users to the TM GSM as well. Actually, they will have to be really careful with this one. IMO, CDMA cannot just be converted to GSM that easily, they are 2 different kinds of networks. On top of it all, all customers who are being migrated from CDMA to GSM will need new handsets. T-Mobile cannot just start handing them out for free or at a discount without locking these customers into new contracts (which a lot of customers won't be thrilled about), or they will lose a ton of money. And with Verizon's new open access policy, if Sprint's CDMA network gets shut down, what are the odds that some users won't take their CDMA handsets to Verizon instead of buying new ones from T-Mobile?
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Surfinusa
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join:2001-02-08
| reply to Gilitar
Re: Dump Nextel
said by Gilitar :Sprint really needs to spin off Nextel and cut their loss. The T-Mobile/Sprint merger idea is almost as bad as the Sprint/Nextel merger. Exactly I agree. The networks are not compatible how would this help T-mobile unless they folded Sprint and got rid of its own competition. But that would be foolish waste of money. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
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| reply to Pirate515
Re: TM and Sprint
I tend to agree... while from a business perspective, T-Mo / Sprint might be considered good, logistically, and from a consumer standpoint, it would be pretty bad
1. T-Mobile is typically ranked high in consumer satisfaction
2. Sprint is typically rated at the bottom in consumer satisfaction.
3. T-Mobile is GSM and soon UMTS 1700/2100 MHz
4. Sprint is CDMA 1x EVDO - do you think EVDO customers would want to use EDGE datarates ?
5. Sprint CDMA has a lot of roaming on other CDMA carriers - T-Mobile has a few roaming agreements, but not the same coverage at Sprint's roaming
6. Nextel - would work better in a GSM environment, as it uses GSM signalling and SIM cards as GSM does today.
AT&T would do better with Nextel.
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Surfinusa
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join:2001-02-08
|  Hope to see price wars
I think its long enough seeing SMS,Text ect.. costs going through the roof and being jacked up nickle and dime for everything. Time to see some real competition with price and service.
Sprint needs to concentrate on there network though it is seriously lacking need more towers.
Nextel beats print in that department.
I like to see lower prices. |
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DMS1
join:2005-04-06
Carrollton, TX
| Buy iDEN
With Motorola supposedly looking to spin off and sell off various parts of the business it could make sense for Sprint to buy the iDEN technology that the Nextel service uses and make money by licensing that to other handset manufacturers and operators. |
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gimme5
join:2002-12-23
Kissimmee, FL
| reply to en102
Re: TM and Sprint
said by en102 :4. Sprint is CDMA 1x EVDO - do you think EVDO customers would want to use EDGE datarates ? I used to have T-mobile, I now have Sprint. I would not want to go back to edge, I'll tell you that right now. |
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robbob340
K.U. Sweet 16
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join:2001-02-15
Wichita, KS | QChat
With the first (rather good) reports of QChat coming in over the last couple of weeks I think a Sprint owned iDEN network is doomed.
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romulusnr
join:2007-08-01
Federal Way, WA
| Sprint should sell Nextel to TMO
iDEN is closer to GSM than CDMA anyway. And I know TMO has been looking into PTT; acquiring NXL would make that much easier.
I wouldn't expect a lot of post-purchase churn from iDEN users because PTT is a lock-in. Until someone else develops a comparable non-iDEN PTT solution, and markets it prominently, iDEN users are going to stay put. Was there much churn after the merger with Sprint? I know I still hear the telltale chirp-chatter here and there.
The question for any buyer is: does iDEN have enough customers and potential customers to be worth the purchase? Has that in fact been Sprint-Nextel's ultimate problem? Can TMO do better with leveraging iDEN then Sprint has?
Maybe the magic bullet will be to create a comparable PTT service at the same time on your legacy network, then flip your iDEN customers over to it. |
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robbob340
K.U. Sweet 16
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join:2001-02-15
Wichita, KS
| »www.howardforums.com/showthread.···ht=qchat
That is exactly what QChat is. A CDMA based ptt system, compatable with iDEN.
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tiger72
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join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
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| I swear to god... TMO + Sprint = TMO hemorrhage
If Sprint were to EVER merge with TMO (TMO isn't this stupid, but hypothetically speaking), I would drop TMO in a heartbeat and go to VZ or ATT. I'm extremely happy with my TMO. It's network works wherever I go, and their prices are good. I've heard nothing but negativity about Sprint, and I live near their headquarters! Who would want to affiliate with a company which can hardly get error-free service in their own backyard?!
T-Mobile is doing well enough on their own with GSM. No need to mess that up.
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old_dawg
"I Know Noting..."
join:2001-09-22
Westminster, MD
| reply to needforspeed59
Re: Good one!
said by needforspeed59 :"Besides, we're almost 100% positive that Sprint is merging with Monsanto and getting into the genetically-modified crop business." Ok, that is funny! No, it's too sad to be funny,witnessing one bozo CEO after another run the company into the ground then drift away on a golden parachute embossed with the Alfred E Neuman logo.
I'm a real big fan of money, call me a capitalist tool if you want, but perhaps these a$$hats need to be prosecuted as criminals.
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