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join:2005-06-03
Bedford, MA | Lots of luck on that Sure, suppose you find an anonymous poster who is located in, for example, Spain. Spain is hardly likely to extradite someone to Kentucky for anything like this, considering that the laws of Kentucky hardly apply outside of Kentucky. Get real! | |
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phoneTerrorist
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Maccawolf 
| . Why doesn't Couch do something useful like whip up a law that prevents the telephone terrorist politicians from calling us up repeatedly begging our vote? | |
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Airwolf
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join:2001-10-30
Windsor, ON
clubs: | What if... ...you post on a forum anonymously using a Kentucky based proxy server, but are not located there? | |
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TheMG
join:2007-09-04
Edmonton, AB
2 edits | Jurisdiction. How can they possibly wish to accomplish this when they have absolutely NO legal jurisdiction over sites hosted/owned in other countries? | |
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Alakar
Facts do not cease to exist when ignored
join:2001-03-23
Milwaukee, WI
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| ???????????? WTF, can we say "Lets just piss away tax payers money"!?!? What a waste of space. 
»polwatchers.typepad.com/pol_watc···ban.html
Couch on Wednesday readily acknowledged that his bill raises First Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing it. But he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often untrue comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding behind the cloak of anonymity.
"Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my district, usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."
"When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about someone and nobody knows who you are," he said.
Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online roasting, and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the legislature can do about it.
"I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its own. It's a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state can try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do anything."
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA
| Re: ???????????? Couch on Wednesday readily acknowledged that his bill raises First Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing it.
You know your bill raises First Amendment issues so you "won't be pushing" it? How about never bringing it up in the first place? If you want to tackle online bullying then find a way to craft narrowly focused legislation instead of some all-encompassing, impossible-to-enforce law.
But he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often untrue comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding behind the cloak of anonymity.
People say unkind things on the Internet? Say it ain't so! 
"Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my district, usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."
It's the nature of High School. I, of all people, know. I was relentlessly tormented in High School and this was before the days of the Internet. (Well, before the World Wide Web took off making The Internet someplace that non-geeks knew about and used.) I sympathize with those who are bullied, especially online bullying, but you need to craft narrowly focused legislation to fight it. (If you use legislation at all, that is.) You don't fight a mosquito with a machine gun.
"When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about someone and nobody knows who you are," he said.
Yes, that's pretty much the definition of Anonymous, Mr. Couch. Coming up next, Mr. Couch describes water as "wet and usually a liquid, but sometimes frozen into ice or even in a gaseous 'steam' form."
Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online roasting, and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the legislature can do about it.
Ironically, by bringing forward this bill, he's going to be the subject of *more* online roasting than if he stayed quiet.
"I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its own. It's a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state can try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do anything."
Again, you don't think you can do anything, yet you're willing to draft a law against it anyway? We should require all laws to be feasible and have some sort of penalty for wasting the government's time with unfeasible, patently unconstitutional bills.
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Greg_Z
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join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL | Do you not love the mindset of the Technically Challenged. | |
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Jwobot
join:2002-08-14
Sterling Heights, MI |  re..
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madrhino
join:2004-07-03 | What planet is this guy from? The people in Kentucky voted for this guy?Shouldn't we just nuke the whole state from orbit? It's the only way to be sure
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| Airwolf7
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join:2004-12-12
Franklin, KY
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| Re: What planet is this guy from? said by madrhino : The people in Kentucky voted for this guy?Shouldn't we just nuke the whole state from orbit? It's the only way to be sure It would take a nuke.
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=31vm3-BQRJU
Tim might not be to sharp on the First Amendment but we are doing OK with the Second Amendment just in case someone gets any crazy ideas in their head about the First Amendment or the rest of the Constitution. | |
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join:2004-07-03
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| Re: What planet is this guy from? Unfortunately in DC where that is needed you can get arrested for owning a 22 pistol in your own home!!!
So the first amendment only applies slectively where it can be contained and neutralized.
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Nightshade
sic semper tyrannis
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join:2002-05-26
Salem, OR
| Re: Awww Exactly, some people just need to get over themselves. Besides, most states have cyber bulling laws in one form or another. It's just that most people don't think that it is a form of harassment.
Just another law that isn't needed because there is already another law that deals with it.
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ARGONAUT
got ping?
join:2006-01-24
New Albany, IN | yes it is. When it's all said and done it will be about cockfighting. | |
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Gandalf1315
Freelance Philosopher
join:2001-05-23
Indianapolis, IN
 ·RoadRunner Cable
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| This comes as no surprise... After all this is the same State that invented tooth paste. If it would have been invented in any other State it would have been called teeth paste.
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Unknown_Poster
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Greg_Z
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join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL | Re: IB4TF!! "Its 1965, why not ask for a Gadzillion, Trillion, Billion dollars you assmunch." Have to love Austin Powers. | |
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treetop1000
join:2003-11-07
Lexington, KY
| To be fair... There's not much of a story here.
Hyden, the politico's home base is like a coal-flavored version of Mayberry. It makes the other towns in the area look big by comparison. There are good people there, and some very stupid people as well. It's true that you do not have to be a rocket scientist to be elected to State Office, and it helps to be free with your campaign money. (Of course, Hyden's so small, that there was even a left over donut or two in the box after the election)
If you thought you had a handle on the Internet before, just wait until the flak from this bit of ignorance really starts hitting home.
People aren't really concerned with what you want to accomplish, (it will never happen) but are more concerned that you even think that the GOVERNMENT wants to suspend free speech, "because it's anonymous".
I'd like to introduce you to my next guest, Marie Antoinette.
Check out how her career path went....
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cableman0327
join:2004-10-10
Westminster, MD | Anonymous If one is Anonymous, how are you going to catch them, what a wast of tax dollars, smoke some weed, then you'll have a reason to be stupid. | |
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ackman
join:2000-10-04
Acworth, GA
| and which political party is this fine gentleman representing? Ah, gotcha, the new American reich-wing nazi party... got it! Come on, America, get over the pro-choice/pro-life argument crap and start voting these neo-con knuckle-dragging gap-toothed corporate-loving hypocrits out of office. | |
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timcouch OUCH
@comcast.net | call the ANEX number asap!!! hey
call the ANEX number, leave a message! tell him to STAND UP for FREEDOM the CONSTITUTION!
it appears to be his own voicemail! | |
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asdfdfdfdfdfdf
@Level3.net
| bullying is certainly a very real problem... From all that I have read about this it is usually an extension of the social environment of the school. Kids get online with others of their school and trash kids that they know from school. It also seems to be worst among girls. Surely the appropriate way to fight this would be to crack down on bullying in the schools, not internet anonymity. | |
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HuH
@insightbb.com
| Never Made The Connection Wouldn't have anything to do with Charter Communications having a 700 person call center in Louisville, would it?
Wouldn't have anything to do with Charter's non-compliance with State and Federal health and safety regulations, as well as non-compliance with the Americans With Disabilities act, right?
Where are your priorities, people? Money talks, employees can't. | |
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