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Comments on news posted 2008-03-14 13:13:57: Computer World explores how Verizon's sale of its New England DSL and phone networks to Fairpoint communications is somewhat of a lose-lose scenario for consumers. ..

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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
Can't believe anyone

The unions are full of crap, Verizon is full of crap, the State's are ALWAYS full of crap.


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME

Nobody wants to invest where there's little profit (Verizon), and those that actually do want to manage it do not have the resources (Fairpoint) - typical, nothing new here.
Fairpoint is the Qwest of the east.
--
Canada = Hollywood North

Jeanne021556

join:2003-08-07
Portland, OR

FairPoint

They will do just fine. The company has been preparing for this acquisition for over a year. I have FairPoint service in Washington State and it's excellent. Voice/IPTV and Internet. Plus they build FTTH for newer subdivisions. Something other rural telco's are not doing.

Give them a break. Verizon isn't interested in rural America. At least with FairPoint the northeast will get ADSL+2, bonded pairs for higher internet, IPTV, and where they can build new service, FTTH !

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
reply to en102
Re: Can't believe anyone

Do nothing and collect the USF laughing all the way to the bank.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

reply to Jeanne021556
Re: FairPoint

said by Jeanne021556 See Profile :

At least with FairPoint the northeast will get ADSL+2, bonded pairs for higher internet,
Have any proof?


cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27
This is deserving the

OBVIOUS tag...


Flashfire

@verizon.com

reply to Jeanne021556
Re: FairPoint

FTTH sounds good...too bad Fairpoint and Verizon have spent 2 years convincing rural consumers that are not informed of upgraded technology that DSL is currently the latest and greatest while customers in populated areas can enjoy fiber to the home. Glad you have fiber, but we are never going to see it now.

Jeanne021556

join:2003-08-07
Portland, OR

reply to patcat88
Yes. I have the service in Washington. They plan deployment of Occam and ADC in the northeast. They also use Actelis for bonded pairs. They will do just fine and subscribers will be happy with the improvements. Verizon wasn't planning any so why beat up a company that wants to improve the area ?


justdslmealready

@keene.edu
Re: ALL LOSERS

There will be hell to pay if Fairpoint refuses to remove the DLC in front of my house which Verizon refused to deal with... HELL I tell you.


rit56

join:2000-12-01
New York, NY
reply to Jeanne021556
Re: FairPoint

admit you work for them...

hoyleysox

join:2003-11-07
Long Beach, CA
·Cox HSI
·Time Warner Cable

Win for consumers that aren't in New England

Let me spin this the other way. Its a win-win for over 90% of consumers, since most consumers do not live in New England...

Lines in rural New England lines are more expensive to service (on average) than lines in dense-urban population centers.

If you are a consumer that does not live in New England, this is a win-win for you because your bill will no longer be subsidizing those expensive New England lines (except for through USF).


KoolMoe
Aw Man
Premium
join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD
clubs:
reply to Flashfire
Re: FairPoint

You were never going to see it anyway with VZ. Why not give Fairpoint a chance. Let them prove you right before you get too depressed...
KM

Yeedog

join:2004-09-05

We were never going to see it in NH anyways?

That's why there are around 10-15 communities in southern NH that has FIOS right not. I'm not talking small towns either, but a few of the bigger cities in NH. Plus Verizon was planning expansion of FIOS to another 10 communities, with Manchester on the list. Manchester is the largest city by population in NH.

Verizon was also actively procuring franchise agreements with each area for FIOS TV as well. The only reason this all stopped was because of the sale to Fairpoint. If there was no sale pending I'm sure FIOS roll out would still be happening in NH.

droobie
Premium
join:2007-10-09
Bangor, ME

reply to Jeanne021556
We already have ADSL2+ in the Northeast.. At least we do in Maine and part of NH. www.gwi.net has their own hardware in these COs.

However, in the Fairpoint Northeast market, your choices are much much worse. 384/256 for 34.95, 1.5/512 for 44.95, or 1.5/1.0 for 79.95. Even Verizon DSL isn't THAT bad.

Source: »www.fairpoint.com/telco/646fpne/···/dsl.php

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
reply to Jeanne021556
Fairport actually bought a few local companies out in Ohio near PA. They seem to be doing pretty well there.


Former VZ

@verizon.net
lame

This really is a lose/lose. I've had FTTH for a year and a half and who the hell knows what's going to happen with it once Fairpoint takes over. I certainly wont be able to get FiOS TV or phone, that's for sure. What a waste.


bear73
Metnav... Fly The Unfriendly Skies
Premium
join:2001-06-09
Grand Forks Afb, ND
·Midcontinent Commu..

reply to rit56
Re: FairPoint

does he have to work for them to champion them? perhaps he gets a newsletter as a customer of them....

OK, maybe he does. But so what?! if Fairpoint is going to build out, who cares!

any large construction needs a long lead-in time for planning and pre-positioning.

The REAL issue here is that Verizon has been allowed to skate out of a $1B debt AND a $600M write-off?!?!?!

I CALL SHENANIGANS!!!!!! (since the post nazi will block bullshit)
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If ya gotta go, Go with a SMILE!
»www.thereligionofpeace.com/


bear73
Metnav... Fly The Unfriendly Skies
Premium
join:2001-06-09
Grand Forks Afb, ND
reply to hoyleysox
Re: Win for consumers that aren't in New England

yea, now more of your monthly check to them will be lining their pockets...
--
If ya gotta go, Go with a SMILE!
»www.thereligionofpeace.com/


pakron

@verizon.net
fairpoint verizon "Catastrophic Boondoggle"

"Catastrophic Boondoggle" I have always like these words but I never have had a need to use them, but this deal seems to fit nicely....


pakron

@verizon.net
"Catastrophic Boondoggle"

"Catastrophic Boondoggle"
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