Surfinusa
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join:2001-02-08 | Fiber
Doesn't look like Seattle has wired there city yet though they have been talking about this for some time now.
Not an easy project. |
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TKJunkMail
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1 edit | said by Surfinusa  :Doesn't look like Seattle has wired there city yet though they have been talking about this for some time now. Not an easy project. And, as usual, they want some private enterprise to take all the risks, while still maintaining governmental(& thereby political) oversight and control. Good luck on getting anyone to reply to the RFP. Maybe they hope Microsoft will bail them out by creating a broadband showcase at a loss to MS like Google did in Moutainview, CA.
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Healbot
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Vancouver, WA | Fios
They have verizon fios in the region already |
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PhoenixDown
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Re: Fiber
If the deal was structured right, this could be extremely lucrative opportunity for a major telecom provider. |
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TKJunkMail
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| said by PhoenixDown :If the deal was structured right, this could be extremely lucrative opportunity for a major telecom provider. Politicians will be involved. What do you think the chances are it will be "structured right"?
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TScheisskopf
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Belvidere, NJ | I agree. I look at Wall Street and I get all warm and fuzzy, knowing that Big Business always knows and does The Correct Thing.
And they never, ever need politicians and government types to bail them out of trouble, either. |
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lordofwhee
join:2007-10-21
Everett, WA | reply to Healbot
Re: Fios
If by "have in the region" you mean "get to look at the fiber lines that ALMOST reach their houses", then you are correct. |
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ahulett
Life Without Walls
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Bellevue, WA | reply to Healbot
Unfortunately not on the road I'm at. I keep checking though... hoping... |
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EPS
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Hingham, MA
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Is Seattle a Verizon or Qwest ILEC area, or is it mixed? The article seems to give the impression that the city itself is Qwest. Verizon tends not to place FiOS where they don't have ILEC status, since that would mean having to negotiate for the right-of-way. |
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MyDogHsFleas
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Austin, TX | Seattle Supersonics most likely leaving town...
because the city and/or state refuses to match a $150M offer from Steve Ballmer. Yet they'll spend $500M to implement broadband rather than letting private industry do it? |
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pepperxn
join:2001-02-21
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Re: Fios
said by EPS :Is Seattle a Verizon or Qwest ILEC area, or is it mixed? The article seems to give the impression that the city itself is Qwest. Verizon tends not to place FiOS where they don't have ILEC status, since that would mean having to negotiate for the right-of-way. Qwest, but Verizon has spotty areas around the country outside their territory that was GTE. |
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cscottm
join:2002-05-09
Kent, WA
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Re: Seattle Supersonics most likely leaving town...
Unless I am wrong, I believe part of the deal was for someone to buy the team, which the current owners have said, its not for sale. Since day 1, I already knew that was the current owners plan & that they were probably hoping that we wouldn't give them what they want. Seattle has a better chance now at luring another team, then keeping the current team. I believe that owner of the New Orleans team wants out of N.O. maybe Seattle can make a deal with him.
said by MyDogHsFleas :because the city and/or state refuses to match a $150M offer from Steve Ballmer. Yet they'll spend $500M to implement broadband rather than letting private industry do it? |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| needs a good name...
all you need to do is give it a DISTINGUISHED name...
Maybe something along the lines of "Bear Stearns"?
When the fiber project runs low on funds.. you have have a white knight in the white house call in that special favor and bail you out!
:-P
I say go for it.. Qwest will take another 10-20 years do anything that resembles residential broadband (that's if they still exist in 10-20 years). |
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dmconwa1
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| Qwest FTTN deployment
Qwest has earmaked $300 million THIS YEAR to provide FTTN service to 1.5 million customers. This is the first launch. You're fooling yourself if you think that is all they will do.
If the service is succesful I'm sure they'll deploy more next year.
The Seattle plan is looking at $500 million to build. Assuming they stick to budget. That will never happen. How long do you think it would take to build it out? |
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furlonium
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join:2002-05-08
Bethlehem, PA | Most profitable?
"...given Qwest's plan involves serving only the most profitable portions of Seattle."
Kind of like Verizon does with FiOS everywhere? |
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | Its the only way...
Any one will see any REAL choice is to have a neutral network like UTOPIA |
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MyDogHsFleas
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Re: Seattle Supersonics most likely leaving town...
said by cscottm :I believe that owner of the New Orleans team wants out of N.O. maybe Seattle can make a deal with him. The NBA will never let the New Orleans team leave. It would be a PR disaster. |
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jinjimbob
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said by MyDogHsFleas :because the city and/or state refuses to match a $150M offer from Steve Ballmer. Yet they'll spend $500M to implement broadband rather than letting private industry do it? I would rather tax money going to assist Home Depot or Best Buy, as these shops people actually goto.
No tax subsidies should be used for anything, ever. |
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Corydon
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Re: Qwest FTTN deployment
Qwest simply doesn't have the money to aggressively roll out FTTN on a widespread basis.
Some financials:
2007 CAPEX for Qwest was $1.67B.
By comparison:
Verizon: $17.54B
AT&T: $17.72B
Comcast: $6.56B
Charter: $1.24B
That last one should tell you a lot: Qwest and Charter are spending about the same amount on capital expenditures, while Qwest has obligations to cover a lot more territory that is harder to service than Charter does. Telcos have to spend a lot of money servicing all that copper in rural areas, and Qwest's territory is very sparsely populated and geographically interesting. MSOs, by contrast, tend to stick to cities.
This is why Verizon is trying to drop Maine and New Hampshire, btw. They'd rather concentrate on areas with denser population (and more money) like Boston, New York City, etc.
Unfortunately, we won't be seeing a lot of advanced new services popping up in Qwest's footprint (and seeing how I live in Denver, that hurts me too).
Seattle recognizes that Qwest is unlikely to roll out the kind of service they'd like to see, and the MSOs, knowing that Qwest is weak, will only invest just enough to keep ahead of Qwest. The result is that Seattle (and Denver and Phoenix) don't get the same kind of attention that cities like Boston and New York are getting, so they're trying to get the ball rolling in another way. |
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC | reply to elios
Re: Its the only way...
They're doing it wrong, or I'm reading it wrong. They're not spending 500 million to own the network, they are saying "someone please spend 500 million dollars to wire our city kthx". |
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