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This is going to get interesting. |
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nutcr0cker
join:2003-04-02
Chandler, AZ
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They invested in technology and got ahead in broadband we invested in GW and we have war and a looming depression. Isn't it you get what you pay(vote) for and sometimes you get more than you bargained for  |
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Rob
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| said by nutcr0cker  :They invested in technology and got ahead in broadband we invested in GW and we have war and a looming depression. Isn't it you get what you pay(vote) for and sometimes you get more than you bargained for Congratulations. Only took the 2nd post to mention Bush.
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firephoto
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Surely some domestic investment wouldn't have hurt our own country? |
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Camelot One
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1 edit | Studies and more studies
Ok, so 8 countries top us. And just yesterday the study released was that more than 50% of those customers were unhappy with the service. So while they have better penetration, it seems the penetration is in an uncomfortable place. (no, not like the back of a VW) |
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flyingjoey
join:2005-11-07
Jersey City, NJ | .... and now what?
It does help that all of this countries are 1/4 of the size of the US and that EU countries tend to help out each other. |
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JSRoman
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Callahan, FL | Taxes- How much are you willing to pay.
Denmark- 38-59% + VAT 25%
Finland- 10-48% + VAT 22%
Netherlands- 0-52% + VAT 19%
Sweden- 0-56% + VAT 6-25%
USA- 0-35% NO VAT
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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Re: They got what they invested in
said by Rob :said by nutcr0cker :They invested in technology and got ahead in broadband we invested in GW and we have war and a looming depression. Isn't it you get what you pay(vote) for and sometimes you get more than you bargained for Congratulations. Only took the 2nd post to mention Bush. I congrat too because he's actually absolutely correct.
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | reply to nutcr0cker
I'd rather not be in the 80% tax bracket and buy my own service. |
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kamm
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3 edits | reply to JSRoman
Re: Taxes- How much are you willing to pay.
said by JSRoman :Denmark- 38-59% + VAT 25% Finland- 10-48% + VAT 22% Netherlands- 0-52% + VAT 19% Sweden- 0-56% + VAT 6-25% USA- 0-35% NO VAT 1. Are you high? Do you even know WTF VAT means actually?
Stop posting false info, pls.
For cvlueless trolls: value-added tax equals to our sales tax.
Here in NYC we have 8.38% and AFAIK it's between 4% and 10% in US states.
2. They all have top-notch universal healthcare, included in taxes, most also include quality basic and secondary education as well (not worthless one like we have here). We have BS and parasitic war industry costs included, not healthcare or any social services in our taxes.
Somehow we keep financing this giant, megalomaniac, parasitic military-industrial complex - exactly the one Eisenhower, the five-star general and later President warned about: "we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex... Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together." |
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Dogfather
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1 edit | reply to kamm
Re: They got what they invested in
No he's not. Verizon got billions in taxpayer benefits in PA and didn't deploy crap.
Gov't screws up everything they do and spend 10X the money trying to do it. I have no interest in broadband by DMV.
There is good reason Congressional approval is in the teens, they're 'tards. |
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Dogfather
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4 edits | reply to kamm
Re: Taxes- How much are you willing to pay.
VAT is a national sales tax and it's massive because it can happen with EACH exchange (where as our sales tax is only levied on the final sale). He knows exactly what it is.
And no, they don't have top-notch healthcare. They have endless wait lists for even the most basic procedures and the gov'ts are going bankrupt from it.
No amount of liberal wishful thinking can change the disaster that socialized medicine in Canada and Europe is.
Their schools are better because they aren't crippled by the corruption of the NEA and our greedy teacher unions. |
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rit56
join:2000-12-01
New York, NY | Non Disclosure
I've read here how the FCC won't release actually penetration figures. So if they did a true accounting with honest numbers we would be near the bottom. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to nutcr0cker
Re: They got what they invested in
Man....that has to be the best start and worst finish I've ever seen on DSLR. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
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Re: Taxes- How much are you willing to pay.
"top-notch" does not mean basic access. Americans have access to top-notch healthcare. Actually on par, better healthcare. It's just expensive for the end-user.
Americans take trips to get cheap healthcare. Foreigners come here when they want some of the finest healthcare. |
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qworster
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Los Angeles, CA
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Re: Non Disclosure
said by rit56 :I've read here how the FCC won't release actually penetration figures. So if they did a true accounting with honest numbers we would be near the bottom. Not to mention that the FCC considers anything above 256k "broadband". |
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Dogfather
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1 edit | reply to bogey780
Re: Taxes- How much are you willing to pay.
It's not expensive, most in this country have health coverage. According to census data, less than 16% »www.census.gov/Press-Release/www···647.html don't have health coverage.
Putting 1/6th of the US GDP in the hands of this inept gov't would be a total disaster. We already see from other gov't programs how corrupt and wasteful they are. Nothing the gov't does, works well, other than the IRS. The gov't is very skilled at stealing money from Joe Taxpayer. |
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godmachine12
join:2004-04-06
Johnson City, TN
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said by JSRoman :Denmark- 38-59% + VAT 25% Finland- 10-48% + VAT 22% Netherlands- 0-52% + VAT 19% Sweden- 0-56% + VAT 6-25% USA- 0-35% NO VAT You obviously aren't aware what VAT is, its scope, and I won't bother to explain. Better to learn for yourself. I'll stick strictly to the Scandinavian countries and Finland, for they are all I have personal experience with. The tech saviness and infrastructure of these countries is staggering. They are far, far ahead of the US as far as that goes, but like someone mentioned before, size and population play a factor. The population of all of those countries combined pales in comparison to many of our states. That said, I still think we can do better. It will never be perfect and there are rural areas with such sparse populations that it is not economically feasible, but with the technology we have here, we should definitely strive to be towards, if not on, the top. |
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BillRoland
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said by kamm :Stop posting false info, pls. Good advice. You should take it.
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JimF
join:2003-06-15
Allentown, PA
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said by kamm :Somehow we keep financing this giant, megalomaniac, parasitic military-industrial complex - exactly the one Eisenhower, the five-star general and later President warned about: It is good that you spelled out his name. I don't think the current generation knows who Ike is. He was a real conservative, and the world's expert on the military-industrial complex, long before the Republican party was hijacked by the Neocons who think that conservatism is invading the wrong country. |
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