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Louisville, KY | Re: Just like it says in the article... said by Jafo232:What I don't understand is why they don't do it like Xbox Live. Let it expire 24 hours after you watch it. Not after you purchase it. I mean sheesh, I purchase PPV movies and sometimes don't get a chance to watch them until the next day. This is stupid. Actually, Directv permits this with their own DVRs. You can record the pay-per-view anytime and not have to pay until you decide to watch it. However, I don't know if this policy changes as of Apr. 15.
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Camden, TN | said by Jafo232:What I don't understand is why they don't do it like Xbox Live. Let it expire 24 hours after you watch it. Not after you purchase it. I mean sheesh, I purchase PPV movies and sometimes don't get a chance to watch them until the next day. This is stupid. Now see if people want to frame the argument that you should be able to keep the movie for say 5 days like the local Movie Gallery does, I can buy that argument and see it's merritts. It seems most people's attitude here is that they should keep it forever.
What's funny is people still have 24 hours to watch the movie and yet still complain. If I pick a PPV movie on cable I have to watch it at a specific time. So if I choose 7 PM then something comes up and I can't watch it at 7 PM then I just lost my money. | |
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join:2000-10-28 | Re: Just like it says in the article... Your position is ridiculous. How is recording a PPV movie ANY different than recording an HBO movie, or a sitcom, or the nightly news??
Should retention time on THOSE be arbitrarily and artificially limited too?
(Hint: The answer is "damn no".)
People recording their PPV purchase aren't keeping a DVD copy; they're keeping a recording of the showing (in crappy compressed satellite or cable format) they PAID to see. Pay Per View is already for idiots and shut-ins; this amazingly greedy move does nothing to change that.
Personally I'm quite happy with the dollar DVD kiosks. Very fair, completely legal, and very convenient if you're near one.
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1 edit | said by Moropo:Just like it says in the article. What incentive is there to stay legal if all they do is limit your use of the product? Pirate it and your free to do whatever you please and whenever you please as well. The answer is really clear to me. So you can't keep a movie that you paid $3 for indefinately so you want to go the "illegal" route? If you want to keep a movie then buy the DVD.
Where do people come up with this attitude that everything shod be gvien to them? The REAL and GROWN UP world doesn't work that way people.
It's called PAY PER VIEW, not pay once keep forever. What part is hard to udnerstand? | |
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join:2007-01-11 | Re: Just like it says in the article... said by BF69:It's called PAY PER VIEW, not pay once keep forever. Guess we can be glad its not called PAY PER VIEWer then, eh? 
Go on Hollywood just keep shoving that stick in the face of the consumer! Just remember what happens when we get poked into a corner.  | |
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Alexandria, VA | said by BF69:So you can't keep a movie that you paid $3 for indefinately so you want to go the "illegal" route? If you want to keep a movie then buy the DVD. Where do people come up with this attitude that everything shod be gvien to them? The REAL and GROWN UP world doesn't work that way people. It's called PAY PER VIEW, not pay once keep forever. What part is hard to udnerstand? It's real simple: I'm not actually interested in renting a movie. What I'm actually interested in doing is buying a movie. I'm interested in buying it in a soft format that I can store on a central media server in my house and keep so that: I don't have to KEEP buying it each time a new hardware device comes out; so that I don't have to slog a damned copy of it from one part of the house to the other to watch it; so that I don't have to dedicate a freaking media shelf to storing useless jewel cases.
Perhaps a $3 rental fee is too low, but expecting to charge the same amount as one would charge for hard media is a little unreasonable too. After all, I've saved them the manufacturing costs. I've saved them shipping. I've saved them the stocking costs. The only real costs they have left is the bandwidth to get it to me.
But, I suppose I should really be paying them each and every time I pop one of my DVDs into my current player, eh? It's immature and borderline thievery on my part to be doing otherwise, eh?
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kudos:4 | said by BF69:said by Moropo:Just like it says in the article. What incentive is there to stay legal if all they do is limit your use of the product? Pirate it and your free to do whatever you please and whenever you please as well. The answer is really clear to me. So you can't keep a movie that you paid $3 for indefinately so you want to go the "illegal" route? If you want to keep a movie then buy the DVD. Where do people come up with this attitude that everything shod be gvien to them? The REAL and GROWN UP world doesn't work that way people. It's called PAY PER VIEW, not pay once keep forever. What part is hard to udnerstand? Ever heard of the three R's? (Rent, rip, return)
any movie i deem worthy of a rental fee gets ripped to dvd.
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Camden, TN | Re: Just like it says in the article... said by dvd536:Ever heard of the three R's? (Rent, rip, return) any movie i deem worthy of a rental fee gets ripped to dvd. if it's worth keeping it's worth paying for LEGALLY. You should be in jail. I'm sorry I have ZERO sympathy for people to cheap to pay $5-$10 or a DVD at wal-mart. Even someone working at KFC for $6 an hour can afford that. I cna't afford a Porche so I guess it's my RIGHT to steal one. How dare they charge so much. | |
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"Yes, the 24 hour viewing period is triggered by your purchase of the Pay Per View movie, so make sure to plan accordingly."
So the 24 hour clock starts as soon as the movie finishes recording. If you don't watch it within 24 hours, you can never watch it. | |
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that's pay with 24 window of possible viewing
Have we gone this far with techincailities and such that now pay per view doesn't mean what its supposed to? | |
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Palo Alto, CA | said by BF69:said by Moropo:Just like it says in the article. What incentive is there to stay legal if all they do is limit your use of the product? Pirate it and your free to do whatever you please and whenever you please as well. The answer is really clear to me. So you can't keep a movie that you paid $3 for indefinately so you want to go the "illegal" route? If you want to keep a movie then buy the DVD. Where do people come up with this attitude that everything shod be gvien to them? The REAL and GROWN UP world doesn't work that way people. It's called PAY PER VIEW, not pay once keep forever. What part is hard to udnerstand? And the problem of keeping a PPV movie on your DVR for an extended period of time is....? | |
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Mullica Hill, NJ | the main issue is this, if the signal comes into my house hollywood has no right to say how long i keep and use the recording.
DRM is the most fowl idea in tech, id rate DRM lower then adware and spyware and somewhere between a worm and a Trojan. DRM serves only one purpose, to limit and restrict the freedom of the consumer. i cant see how anyone could ever support DRM unless they are a stock holder of a studio.
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kudos:2 | said by Moropo:Just like it says in the article. What incentive is there to stay legal if all they do is limit your use of the product? Ethics? Morals? Not being an ass? Growing up and maturing? | |
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Minneapolis, MN | Re: Just like it says in the article... said by quatrix:said by Moropo:Just like it says in the article. What incentive is there to stay legal if all they do is limit your use of the product? Ethics? Morals? Not being an ass? Growing up and maturing? Funny, I was thinking this latest move by the studios is unethical, lacks morals, totally makes them assholes, and show they haven't grown up with times. And yet they expect the paying customer who keeps getting screwed over to behave. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Just like it says in the article... said by jhboricua:said by quatrix:said by Moropo:Just like it says in the article. What incentive is there to stay legal if all they do is limit your use of the product? Ethics? Morals? Not being an ass? Growing up and maturing? Funny, I was thinking this latest move by the studios is unethical, lacks morals, totally makes them assholes, and show they haven't grown up with times. And yet they expect the paying customer who keeps getting screwed over to behave. how are you getting screwed? you're not. | |
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Chicago, IL | stupid that is just dumb what if i stop watching because i have to go use the head? what if i work the next day?
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Could a Pay Per View movie expire from my playlist before I get around to watching it?
Yes, the 24 hour viewing period is triggered by your purchase of the Pay Per View movie, so make sure to plan accordingly. If you are not sure you will be able to watch your selection within the 24 hour viewing period, use your “record/buy later” function available on DIRECTV Plus DVR or DIRECTV Plus HD DVR receivers.
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kudos:1 | said by Dude:this is it im going with dish net Could a Pay Per View movie expire from my playlist before I get around to watching it? Yes, the 24 hour viewing period is triggered by your purchase of the Pay Per View movie, so make sure to plan accordingly. If you are not sure you will be able to watch your selection within the 24 hour viewing period, use your “record/buy later” function available on DIRECTV Plus DVR or DIRECTV Plus HD DVR receivers. And Dish will do it soon enough as well  | |
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Chicago, IL | Re: i honestly think i am gonna switch to dish said by Semi175 :
There are a few times I might do this, namely when a ppv is on special at the 1.99 rate and I plan on watching it in a couple of days before it drops off the selection menu.
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That is right HBO and TIVO, John Adams is on usenet and torrent, your efforts are futile.
Perhaps Congress could be made to act on fair use, this does upset enough people after all.
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Camden, TN | Re: The torrents said by Apollo729:John Adams is very well done, I watched part 2 at least 3 times now, twice on HBO and once from a 720P rip found on usenet. That is right HBO and TIVO, John Adams is on usenet and torrent, your efforts are futile. Perhaps Congress could be made to act on fair use, this does upset enough people after all. perhaps when all you immoral theives make it so unprofitbale for companies to make content they'll stop making it then you guys can sit around and have nothing new to watch. THINK.
what is it with the welfare attitude nowadays. Becuase thats what it is. everyone weants everything givin to them at zero cost. Well grown up world doesn't work that way. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
who here is willing to work for FREE? NO ONE. So think about that. What if the company you worked for decided to give out their product or service for FREE because that's what "customers" expected? How do you expect to be paid?
I also like how all the freeloaders and thives here call themselves "customers". If you do not wish to pay for a product or a service exactly how are you a customer.
All these people are against companies making money, yet if companies didn't make money they wouldn't get paid. Irony is so ironic. | |
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HBO does not have ads they make their money from monthly subscriptions and thus I have paid for the content I consumed, even if I did so outside the confines of the HBO channel.
HBO could very well offer free downloads to it's paying customers but it does not.
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Dallas, TX | Hollywood: Aim gun at foot, fire Once again, Hollywood is their own worst enemy in trying to
stop piracy. By introducing more and more onerous and
consumer unfriendly DRM to their offerings, they are not
only treating normally law abiding people as though they
are criminals right from the get-go, but are encouraging
the very piracy that such DRM is supposed to prevent.
Go ahead, Hollywood, keep shooting youselves in the foot.
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Edit:I do have to say that this really irks me. What is the entire point of having DVR if I am forced to watch certain shows/movies within 24 hours then deleted? It's not like I'm burning to my hard drive then posting them on the internet. HBO with its special series "John Adams" sounds hypocritical. A movie about a man for freedom and independence. Then a move that downright tramples it.
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Add in 2 weeks of evening work on it, and voilà. PVR forever, unlimited viewing, ad skipping, it's TV the way you want it to be.
I understand you can't ask a commercial company to offer the same thing, since they'd get legally bombed back to the stone age like Replay TV was, but I wish people would investigate the PVR road instead of the DVR one...
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"You need me MORE than I need YOU. I don't HAVE to buy your product if it's not presented to me in a form that works for me".
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You know that if I wait a month or so I bet I can find the movie on eBay or in the discount pile at Block Buster or garage sale or other video stores for less.
It's getting to the point where it's not cost effective to want to "see" the new movies as soon as they are available. I guess I can wait another month and save a lot of money and own the DVD. Rather buy a used DVD and own it so I can watch it when I want. Once I "own" the DVD I can watch the DVD at my leasure and let the kids do the same thing. (They save $4.00) Later I can resell it at a garage sale and recoop most of my investment.
Same with buying tracks from the on-line music services. All I'm getting is viewing / listening rights. I really don't really own the DVD or CD. (can't resell it). They all seem to want to "limit" the usage of the track/media in some way. All that does is turn me to other options....
Remember: "You need me MORE than I need YOU. I don't HAVE to buy your product if it's not presented to me in a form that works for me".
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Hingham, MA | Re: Power struggles.... Why would TWC say "piss off" to their parent company? (Oh sure, they're commenting about spinning it off and there's a few shares out there, but for now Time Warner still calls the shots) DirecTV also has no reason to say anything now that they're owned by a content provider (Liberty Media), and were previously owned by a much larger one (News Corporation). Comcast has its hand in the pot as well- they have a substantial stake in MGM/UA, among many others.
Honestly, the companies I'd most expect to say something about this are the Telcos turned TV providers, since they don't (yet) have that much of a hand in content. | |
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| | | Besides the ownership issues that EPS mentioned, there is also the fact that companies like DirecTV are in the business of selling TV programming in order to make money. Sure, they could play hardball, but they will only do so if their backs are against the wall. As long as these tactics won't hurt their revenue streams, they'll go along. My guess is that the studios said that these limits were the condition of getting to carry the PPV movies. As long as most consumers are not bothered enough by them to cancel service, then DirecTV won't risk getting into a contract fight with the studios that could cost them a lot of movies and a lot of revenue. | |
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