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Comments on news posted 2008-03-21 15:01:01: DirecTV and Current Communications have started offering broadband over powerline (BPL) connectivity to some 130,000 homes in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. According to the Dallas Morning News, packages range from symmetrical 1. ..

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texans20
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join:2002-09-28
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Symmetrical?

The speeds and prices are great. This could be another great competitor to AT&T and cable companies, I hope to see it take off.

Gilitar

join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL
Outstanding

More competition is a good thing.


jonnyb

join:2008-03-15
Haverhill, NH
I love Comcast

JSRoman
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join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
Push to rural areas.

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nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast

reply to Gilitar
Re: Outstanding

said by Gilitar See Profile :

More competition is a good thing.
more relevant competition is a good thing. this is only relevant to a small number of people.

Right now, BPL is less relevant than sat broadband; and we see how well sat broadband is helping.

EPS

join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
Big Question remains unanswered

That is, the question of interference...


Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
Good for the power company too

No more guys walking the meter reading beat.


amigo_boy

join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ
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reply to nasadude
Re: Outstanding

said by nasadude See Profile :

Right now, BPL is less relevant than sat broadband; and we see how well sat broadband is helping.
It has to start somewhere. I'd like to have BPL, DSL and cable and muni-wifi available so that I could subscribe to two and use a router with two WAN ports to load balance.

Competition is always good.

My electric company (Salt River Project) replaced my meter yesterday with a digital meter ("elster"). It's supposed to let them read the meter remotely. It has a LAN ID printed on the front. I meant to ask the installer if it used wifi or BPL. I'm thinking BPL because I didn't see an antenna.

Mark


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reply to texans20
Re: Symmetrical?

The speeds are great for the price, but the ping times are in the ~300-400 ms all the time to yahoo.com and there seemed to be alot of packet loss.

I worked on someones computer when I was with Geek Squad. He was beta testing BPL for a company in Forney, Texas and he lived around the Ferguson Rd and N Buckner Blvd area IIRC.


Cheese
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Naples, FL
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reply to amigo_boy
Re: Outstanding

said by amigo_boy See Profile :

said by nasadude See Profile :

Right now, BPL is less relevant than sat broadband; and we see how well sat broadband is helping.
It has to start somewhere. I'd like to have BPL, DSL and cable and muni-wifi available so that I could subscribe to two and use a router with two WAN ports to load balance.

Competition is always good.

My electric company (Salt River Project) replaced my meter yesterday with a digital meter ("elster"). It's supposed to let them read the meter remotely. It has a LAN ID printed on the front. I meant to ask the installer if it used wifi or BPL. I'm thinking BPL because I didn't see an antenna.

Mark
Two words, and I could be wrong, Internal Antenna.


rf_engineer

join:2003-08-04
USA

reply to Dogfather
Re: Good for the power company too

said by Dogfather See Profile :

No more guys walking the meter reading beat.
Automatic meter reading has been available for ten years without using BPL.


rf_engineer

join:2003-08-04
USA

reply to amigo_boy
Re: Outstanding

said by amigo_boy See Profile :

said by nasadude See Profile :

Right now, BPL is less relevant than sat broadband; and we see how well sat broadband is helping.
It has to start somewhere. I'd like to have BPL, DSL and cable and muni-wifi available so that I could subscribe to two and use a router with two WAN ports to load balance.

Competition is always good.

My electric company (Salt River Project) replaced my meter yesterday with a digital meter ("elster"). It's supposed to let them read the meter remotely. It has a LAN ID printed on the front. I meant to ask the installer if it used wifi or BPL. I'm thinking BPL because I didn't see an antenna.
It could be PLC based. PLC is the predecessor to BPL. It provides much less bandwidth than BPL, but it can use the power lines without special repeaters and it doesn't have the wireless interference issues that BPL has. PLC is more cost effective for meter reading than BPL, but conversely it can't provide broadband, though it's arguable whether BPL can scale to be a viable broadband service in the long run.


amigo_boy

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Two words, and I could be wrong, Internal Antenna.
You're right. This is what they installed: »www.elsterelectricity.com/en/rex.html

"The REX meter has on-board two-way radio frequency (RF) communications that permit the meter to respond to requests over an unlicensed 900 MHz local area network (LAN). REX meters deployed on the EnergyAxis® System act as repeaters and are self-registering via an A3 ALPHA® meter/collector."
Mark


rf_engineer

join:2003-08-04
USA

reply to nasadude
said by nasadude See Profile :

said by Gilitar See Profile :

More competition is a good thing.
more relevant competition is a good thing. this is only relevant to a small number of people.

Right now, BPL is less relevant than sat broadband; and we see how well sat broadband is helping.
BPL is still in the "Powerline and Other" category in the periodic FCC broadband reports, even after five years of deployments in the U.S. The latest report which just came out with data up to June 2007 showed something just shy of 6,000 customers in this category. I don't have customer data for the first five years of cable or DSL, but I'm sure it was significantly more than 6K.


Cheese
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reply to amigo_boy
said by amigo_boy See Profile :

said by Cheese See Profile :

Two words, and I could be wrong, Internal Antenna.
You're right. This is what they installed: »www.elsterelectricity.com/en/rex.html

"The REX meter has on-board two-way radio frequency (RF) communications that permit the meter to respond to requests over an unlicensed 900 MHz local area network (LAN). REX meters deployed on the EnergyAxis® System act as repeaters and are self-registering via an A3 ALPHA® meter/collector."
Mark
Awesome


BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to Nsaneiceman_Work
Re: Symmetrical?

said by Nsaneiceman_Work :

The speeds are great for the price, but the ping times are in the ~300-400 ms all the time to yahoo.com and there seemed to be alot of packet loss.

I worked on someones computer when I was with Geek Squad. He was beta testing BPL for a company in Forney, Texas and he lived around the Ferguson Rd and N Buckner Blvd area IIRC.
That's why it's called BETA testing. If things worked perfectly you wouldn't need beta testing.


BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to rf_engineer
Re: Good for the power company too

said by rf_engineer See Profile :

said by Dogfather See Profile :

No more guys walking the meter reading beat.
Automatic meter reading has been available for ten years without using BPL.
Funny I still see guys reading the meters every month where I live. I'm 99.9% positive that if my local electric company had the ability to dump it's meter readers and pocket the savings they would.


shoe1

join:2007-09-28
Colfax, CA
Question...

What is the advantages of broadband over power lines? I live in California in a Rural area with no broadband could this help me any time soon?

flyARIA

join:2006-07-29
Cincinnati, OH

When I had Current Communication BPL in Cincinnati the advantage was that it gave me a symmetrical 3 meg connection. The downside was when there was a problem it took a week to get a tech out to troubleshoot. The problem was ALWAYS the equipment on the power pole. It then would take another week to get a crew to come out to get up on the pole to fix it. Current could not troubleshoot the problem to your modem, only to the pole on their side. The last time I had a problem I decided to change providers, never looked back.

ltjordan

join:2001-12-02
Hyattsville, MD
Re: BPL.

Sounds good. I hope it catches on so that they can be a legitimate competitor in the broadband arena.
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