nobody7
join:2001-01-30
Mayer, MN
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Internode says an Airspan-supplied network is providing consistent average speeds of 6Mbps at distances up to 30km, with CEO Simon Hackett describing the platform as “proven.”
I guess that review makes the PR folks at Intel very happy as well.
Just like any other wireless deployment I would think that the details make the big difference. We have no idea of the network design, tower details, antennas used, Radio power, spectrum used etc for this company's deployment. These details can make the difference between great performance and "disaster" results. |
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tomkb
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clubs: | hey, it's wireless
It's wireless, how reliable can it be when there are so many variables in what makes a good signal. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by tomkb  :It's wireless, how reliable can it be when there are so many variables in what makes a good signal. yet people are willing pay $50-$100 a month for cell phone service but bitch when their POTS rate moves above the $30 a month range. |
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nobody7
join:2001-01-30
Mayer, MN | BF69 FTW! That one made me chuckle a bit. Good show. |
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TKJunkMail
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|  US cable companies might be interested in his other comment
Freeman says Buzz has now abandoned WiMAX in favour of a “horses for courses” policy. This includes ... a platform he described as wireless DOCSIS– a relatively little known technology that takes HFC plant and extends its capabilities via wireless mesh. He said wireless DOCSIS operates at up to 38Mbps in the 3.5GHz spectrum and its customer premises equipment supported two voice ports for under $A70 while it boasted “huge cell coverage.” Comcast might be interested in this technology. They could extend their HFC backbone to support wireless coverage as well in some areas.
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gaforces
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join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA | reply to nobody7
Re: quote from the same article:
They shouldn't be happy with those numbers since they have been hyping much higher speeds at farther distances.
Maybe they will get it by Rev 3 ... |
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supergirl
join:2007-03-20
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| reply to BF69
Re: hey, it's wireless
said by BF69 :said by tomkb :It's wireless, how reliable can it be when there are so many variables in what makes a good signal. yet people are willing pay $50-$100 a month for cell phone service but bitch when their POTS rate moves above the $30 a month range. DSL doesn't cause brain cancer like WIMAX. Wimax also affects pacemakers, garage doors, and old TV remotes! 
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Topmounter
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join:2001-02-20
Evergreen, CO | reply to nobody7
Re: quote from the same article:
Since they don't say otherwise, I'm assuming that 30km is to an exterior antennae with line-of-sight. |
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ureihcim
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join:2007-12-16
Miami, FL
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Yet other providers are not having this issue and the article states that as well. If it where all a disaster there would not have been so many deployments across the world that actually have been successful and operate at top performance which includes parts of Europe, Asia, and the middle east.
Yeah, nobody talks about those, but the one yelling disaster sure makes the headlines, somehow and someway. |
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SuperJoker
join:2005-11-21
Yermo, CA
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Re: hey, it's wireless
And a New study claims heavy mobile use causes cancer, I tried Googling the topic "WiMAX causes cancer" and and I found no such article, So could You provide the link to the Kryptonite  , Err evidence?
»www.google.com/search?hl=en&clie···G=Search
Although a thread here does talk about this unsupported claim, Which is all It is so far:
»forums.wi-fiplanet.com/showthread.php?t=8961
And You might want to check this link out too:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_pho···d_health
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nobody7
join:2001-01-30
Mayer, MN
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It would have to be. Links at that distance couldn't be done without an exterior antenna that provides some gain. at least not with the wimax stuff I've seen. The point to my comment was that Karl decided to focus on the bad part of the WiMAX story without referencing the good as well.
Also keep in mind the 3G networks are only being deployed in city areas in AUS right about now. Telstra and Optus are both deploying HSDPA with some HSUPA in dense population areas. So 6mbps in a 30km cell radius is about right to compete with the current market offerings. Once wave 2/3 of wimax introduces mobility, spatial diversity and MIMO we will probably see better rates and distances. |
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N O Y B
St. John 3.16
join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR
| said by nobody7 :The point to my comment was that Karl decided to focus on the bad part of the WiMAX story without referencing the good as well.
The reports here stoop to the same level as the nightly news infotainment shows. It all about sensationalism. Otherwise no audience. Same goes for most of the articles here at BBR too. Focus on the aspects that will attract eyes and generate traffic. That is the way the game is played, and it is no different here at BBR.
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TheMG
join:2007-09-04
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2 edits | The future is NOT wireless.
Wireless has it's downfalls. Also, sooner or later, we'll hit a wall where no further expansion of wireless services can happen.
The truth is, spectrum comes in finite quantities.
People who say that everything in the future will be wireless, are just plain wrong. |
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boast
join:2005-09-03
Miami, FL | reply to SuperJoker
Re: hey, it's wireless
lol? |
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tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI | Wrong company doing the deployment
Maybe it's not the technology that's the problem. Maybe it's the company deploying it.  |
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TKJunkMail
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Re: hey, it's wireless
Airspan blames the customer:
»news.yahoo.com/s/infoworld/20080···ld/96352
With regard to range Buzz Broadband opted to go with the less-expensive micro-cell base stations in order to reduce cost. This was a well understood trade-off of cost versus range, according to Airspan.
The vendor also blames Buzz for bad IP telephony performance, saying Airspan technical services determined that Buzz's back-haul network was considerably under-dimensioned, again to save cost, and lacked sufficient quality of service, and that these factors were the direct cause of VOIP (voice over IP) quality issues in the network.
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They are using pre-WiMAX, which isn't nearly as effective as 802.16e mobile WiMAX.
Oh well, they probably just had a poor implementation and blame it on the technology. They're the only ones not having success with it. |
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supergirl
join:2007-03-20
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Re: hey, it's wireless
Joke.com????
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DaveRb
join:2005-02-12
Allen, TX
| reply to TheMG
Re: The future is NOT wireless.
true, while there will be a variety of medium whether wireless or wired (glass, copper, or (..dots..to..be..filled..in..as.discovered..), however at the end of the day as each and every medium has it's own finite dimensions, the limits of those finite dimensions will be stressed and overcome by technological developement. Wireless is merely part of the future as it has been part of the past since Marconi, as Wireline has been since Morse.... |
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Kumaramitabh
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|  Calling WiMAX a disaster is not fair!
Mobile WiMAX falls short of expectations?
It has been reported that “Dispute erupts over bad WiMax performance” based on the report by an Australian WiMAX operator. The report cites of loss of service with direct connectivity beyond 2 Km and inbuilding coverage of only a few hundred meters from the base station.
WiMAX technology has proved itself in more than 300 trials and a number of commercial launches. Some of the recent ones are the QMAX harbour area WiMAX in Singapore, Wateen telecom in Pakistan, Tata Indicom in India and a number of operators in Latin America.
A network can not defy the laws of physics and the link performances need to be built in. First of all, the higher frequency ranges used in Australia ( nearing the extended c-band at 3.6 GHz are no help as the loss increases with square of frequency as well as distance. Secondly WiMAX base stations come in different versions such as carrier grade, Micro base stations and Pico base stations. These are with different power levels and can not deliver more than their scheduled range.
Hence it all boils down to sectorization and base station densities.
»www.wimax-home.com |
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