newview
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| Truth as a Comcast concept
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By "more appropriate," he means doesn't involve packet forgery and a wholesale assault on one particular protocol.
I hope they also embrace the "more appropriate" concept of telling their subscribers the truth in the future.
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gaforces
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join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
| Don't assume anything
It's probably a bad idea to assign meaning to what they say such as "he means doesn't involve forging user TCP packets."
It's more likely that they will whitelist legal BT so as to avoid lawsuits.
Pirates are still fair game.
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pokesph
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1 edit | We'll see..
While it 'sounds' good on paper, we will have to wait and see what really happens here..
At least Comcast is bowing to pressure and doing something. Let also hope that these upload boosts get around to their whole footprint long before DOCSIS 3 does..
waiting.
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BabyBear
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| Hazah!
Score one for the consumer!
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Originally, Comcast compounded their problems with months of denials, half truths, and semantics when dealing with the press and public concerning their traffic shaping practices.
So with all that, we should be cautiously optimistic on Comcast's ability to follow through with what they are saying today. 
Course this would make for in their eyes a great time for a rate increase, perhaps from $42 to $49. We shall see. |
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Anomaly95
join:2005-12-11
Phoenix, AZ | Wow
That was quick. I figured they would have dragged it out more.
Or are they afraid of a FCC decision? |
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Karl Bode
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| reply to gaforces
Re: Don't assume anything
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It's more likely that they will whitelist legal BT so as to avoid lawsuits.
That's what I was wondering...though the claim here is "protocol agnostic," so they'd be caught in a lie if they went back and started mucking about with even a portion of BT traffic... |
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justbits
More fiber than ATT can handle
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Chicago, IL
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| CTO vs CEO
So, the CTO announced that they're changing their traffic congestion policy. Excellent. I look forward to reading about exactly what they're going to do.
But, what's this mean financially for the company and the customers? What's the CEO have to say? Is this just a means for justifying excessive increases in broadband prices for the next several years? |
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE
| Hmmm...
Yea, now they will just start billing by usage.
I was never a fan of BT myself, anything I have ever tried to D/L with it took forever.
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koitsu
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Mountain View, CA
| "Round-trip" time
... by the end of this year, Comcast will migrate "to a capacity management technique ...
"This means that we will have to rapidly reconfigure our network management systems," says Comcast CTO ...
Nine months is apparently "rapid?" And how long did it take them to install a Sandvine? Nine months? I highly doubt it.
Give us a break, Comcast -- turn the Sandvine stuff off NOW, and then work with us (customers and public users) during the next 9 months to ensure that things are working smoothly.
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major marco
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Well this story is just about the biggest lot of unadulterated, happy corporate PR horseshit that I've ever seen. I don't believe for one minute that Comcrap will completely get rid of the blocking/throttling. They'll just do it a lot more quietly now that all eyes are upon them. And in another 3-6 months from now, after the EFF has gone away and subscribers stop watching, they'll return to the practice.
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TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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|  What if pirates don't use the new friendlier BitTorrent S/W?
"In the spirit of openness and fostering innovative
solutions, BitTorrent will take the first step in enhancing our client
applications to optimize them for a new broadband network architecture.
Furthermore, we will publish these optimizations in open forums and
standard bodies for all application developers to benefit from," said
Ashwin Navin, co-founder and president of BitTorrent, Inc. And what if the pirates don''t use the new friendlier versions of BitTorrent and continue to use versions that don't play nice with the ISPs? What then?
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE
| reply to koitsu
Re: "Round-trip" time
said by koitsu  :... by the end of this year, Comcast will migrate "to a capacity management technique ...
"This means that we will have to rapidly reconfigure our network management systems," says Comcast CTO ...
Nine months is apparently "rapid?" And how long did it take them to install a Sandvine? Nine months? I highly doubt it. Give us a break, Comcast -- turn the Sandvine stuff off NOW, and then work with us (customers and public users) during the next 9 months to ensure that things are working smoothly. 12 months later:
I can see the multiple posts now
"HELP!! COMCAST STILL BLOCKING MY BT"
"Its been 1 year, but Comcast still blocks my BT!!"
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Matt
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join:2003-07-20
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|  TCP Resets a Red Herring?
This makes me wonder ... there was a huge outcry about disconnecting and throttling the heavy users, so I wonder if the Sandvine fiasco was a red herring ... the lesser of two evils so to speak.
Now, instead of everyone yelling about the bandwidth hogs, they've accepted that the bandwidth hogs will be throttled, but everyone else won't be. The problem is, who determines what a bandwidth hog is or what is deemed excessive usage?
Very clever ... or as Monte Burns would say, "Excellent!" |
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Jerkface
join:2005-06-05
Washington, NJ | comcrap
i have to agree that comcast will in fact NOT have this done in the upcoming year. Why dont i believe it? Because i have lost all faith in my isp. Just something that comcrap can put in the papers to show how "consumer-friendly" it is. blah |
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JPuppy
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Re: Don't assume anything
said by Karl Bode : ...so they'd be caught in a lie if... You make it sound like they try to avoid that type of situation.
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LeftOfSanity
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Felton, DE
| reply to major marco
Re: When Pigs Fly Out of My Butt
said by major marco :Well this story is just about the biggest lot of unadulterated, happy corporate PR horseshit that I've ever seen. I don't believe for one minute that Comcrap will completely get rid of the blocking/throttling. They'll just do it a lot more quietly now that all eyes are upon them. And in another 3-6 months from now, after the EFF has gone away and subscribers stop watching, they'll return to the practice. Some will never be happy.
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02 | reply to JPuppy
Re: Don't assume anything
Point made, but if they were still planning to take action against illegal Torrents their PR people would have avoided use of the phrase "protocol agnostic" in the press release. |
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Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet
1 edit | Good news for Bell.
Congratulations, Bell, you've now managed to become more evil than Comcast! I didn't think it was possible, but you pulled through and proved us all wrong!
Don't forget, Bell, your next step should involve forcing every other ISP to cap their services by making wholesalers pay by the megabit AND by the gigabyte! Why double dip when you can triple dip? |
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Sabre
Di relung hatiku bernyanyi bidadari
join:2005-05-17 | reply to Karl Bode
Re: Don't assume anything
Unless they were planning to take action against illegal material of any sort, whether distributed via torrent or otherwise? Wouldn't that still technically be "protocol agnostic"? |
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Karl Bode
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| True. This announcement could be followed in a year by a push where they attempt to purge all illegal content from the network via deep packet inspection like AT&T says they want to do...
There could also be a future scenario where official, sanctioned "BitTorrent Corp." BitTorrent traffic is considered the only legitimate BitTorrent traffic they recognize because they've struck content deals with Cohen and company.
But both of these scenarios would be PR napalm bombs. Can't really tell until someone can poke at the newly managed network later this year. |
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