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Comments on news posted 2008-03-28 08:49:55: The entertainment industry on Thursday continued efforts to convince ISPs they should filter pirated material from their networks. ..

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themessiah13

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The Internet was created for P2P, take a class and learn

Is everyone forgetting the Internet ORIGINATED with the purpose of allowing easier access to communicate and share information? Seriously, what do people think the Internet is for? It was DESIGNED for the purpose of sharing information and data.

The day you succeed to stop the sharing of files is the day you have terminated the Internet. P2P programs did NOTHING but make sharing files slightly easier.

The MPAA and all of its ignorant followers need to get a brief history lesson.

One other mentality that needs to be eliminated is that if the file were not on the Internet I would buy it on CD. NO and NO. Basic dang economics again. Ignorant fools plague the Internet. I swear, I am sick at preaching at the wall, it seems the wall might actually be smarter than many people in the world. This is probably the first thing you will learn in an economics class: CONSUMERS ARE WILLING TO BUY LESS AT A HIGHER PRICE. That is the most basic law of demand. Who the heck is the adviser for these companies? A chimp who never even went to high school? The information I am providing is of such a low level that I'm wondering if anybody at the MPAA and RIAA graduated from elementary school.

a333
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Re: The Internet was created for P2P, take a class and learn

exactly, back in the 90's FTP servers could do the same darned thing that p2p is notorious for doing now. Different protocol, but same purpose. Both transfer material regardless of legitimacy, so the **AA's need to get over it, and throw out the "all customers are thieves" Kool-Aid, and adapt their dead business model to changing times.
Also, if they want to enforce the 'net, let them do the enforcing, and shell out the money. Right now, I look upon them as nothing more than a bunch of lawyers looking for ways to freeload off 100-year-old laws.

koma3504
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said by themessiah13 :

The day you succeed to stop the sharing of files is the day you have terminated the Internet. P2P programs did NOTHING but make sharing files slightly easier.

Exactly all ya have to is share your c:\ or folder of your choice accessed by example »68.25.15.25/InternetSharedfolder

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Paying customers?

"If they can reduce some of the infringing content, then there will be more capacity for their paying customers"

So the people that distribute this content that is allegedly "infringing" are not paying customers of the ISP. Then this matter has nothing to do with piracy it has to do with theft of service... and I have no idea why the MPAA really should give a damn about the ISP's non-paying customers (and actually their network capacity for that matter).

If they are paying customers isn't what the MPAA is suggesting akin to the telco's blocking all calls to drug dealers? Hey it would really free up some of the wireless spectrum the mobile carriers own!
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a333
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Re: Paying customers?

hmmm, wouldn't people just swamp the 'net with LEGITIMATE download services like iTunes? The net effect is zero, in any language.
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right or not right....

I don't have any clear opinion about that. People who make movies, music, ... should be paid for that. In that sense, I agree with the MPAA, something is wrong.

I disagree with movies filmed in theatres, or that can be downloaded from internet as soon as they're available on dvd. Yet I still download some. not much but still. My reason for that is: I won't pay 25$ for a movie if it sucks. I try it and then buy if I like it. thing is few people do that.

What I disagree with the MPAA is what they consider legal/illegal. I don't consider downloading a TV series via torrent illegal because it was on television, ie available to anybody.
I was into fansubs a few years ago, and downloaded many of them, same for mangas. That's illegal, since fansubbing is doing some changes to something copyrighted and distributing it. that's tolerated. There were some huge fights before, I don't really know the situation as of now. When I stopped, I think European and American companies licensing anime were all right with fansubbing: it was a simple way to know which manga/anime buying, it's free publicity. so illegal but tolerated cos mostly helpful. as long as fansubs stopped working no a series when it got licensed.
==> IMO, 99% illegal is way overrated.

As for programs, I have a weird opinion about that. If people weren't buying windows with their computer - try to buy a branded computer without windows, it's hard, and you pay a lot for that even if you don't want that - many people would go to linux, save some bucks for something else, and use programs on linux that are mostly free. :P
(ever wondered what's the cost of windows when you buy a computer?)

And finally, it's not ISP's job to do police about what their customers download or not. ISP provide a link to the internet, with a certain speed and bandwidth allowed. it'd be the same as asking everybody to be a spy of their neighbors and reporting it. it's not your neighbors' job.

a333
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Re: right or not right....

today, I walked past a car, and was listening, and enjoying a station plating on their XM radio service. I guess I'm a pirate, since I didn't pay to listen to it. (audible gasp)

Another day, I listened to some of my friend's Ipod collection. For free. Wow, I guess I must have **AA lawyers swooping down on me with arrest warrants.

Sigh
Since when did common sense leave this world?

koma3504
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Re: right or not right....

said by a333 See Profile :

Sigh
Since when did common sense leave this world?
When Corporate - share holders got gready and wanted more $$$$$ than they could possably spend in 3 lifetimes.
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