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@rogers.com | This is not good... I hot just over 60 gbs a month just by streaming music and downloading audio/video podcast, no pirating etc.. | |
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Sterling
IP Support Tier III
Premium
join:2003-05-30
Pittsburgh, PA | Lame Marketing team trying to make look like torrent is the only place you get a dvd from, completely ignoring many of the outlets such as netflix that I get on average on average 3-4 movies from. | |
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mishkin
@aliant.net
| overage I like overage fees a lot more than i like traffic shaping...
But there should be serveral options for any speed setting.... a user who wants to use 500gb shouldn't have to pay 500$ in overage
I'd say it was fair if they didn't already throttle traffic | |
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devilshaven
@rogers.com
| lets play dirty ok 100gig cap on my connection will come, i guess i am paying for 100 gigs
what if i don't use 100gigs? shouldn't i at least receive roll over gigs? i did pay for them? any one have any idea how can we at least start with forcing rogers to give us what we paid for? | |
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 | jober
join:2001-12-13
| Re: lets play dirty JUST FOR FUN!!!!!!!
Humm, conspiracy theory time.
Could it be that the telco's watched VoIP take a lot of customers after people found out they could get more for less. Now the telco's are trying to get into the TV business along side the Cable Co's but they both see another VoIP on their hands so they cap their customers connections so there is noway the customers can use anyone but them for downloading movies. No Netflix, No CinemaNow, MovieLink, STARZ.
I guess the point is that they will never allow people to only use them for bandwidth without them getting part of the money someone else is making.
Maybe they will just start adding line items to our bills for services they offer but no one uses. It will be the fee for not using them for telephone, TV, Insurance, car repair, loans, and what ever else they can pay the gov to let them do.
OK, Maybe I went a little bit over the cuckoo's nest.
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Jeff Z
@metrocast.net
| Credits for under usage? I'm sure this means Rogers will now credit customers who go under their allocated bandwidth. If I'm out of town for most of the month and only use 10% of my bandwidth I expect to be credited for the 90% I don't use. I was perfectly happy paying an unlimited, "all you can eat", fee which usually averaged out well. Some months it was high, some months it was low. But no... that model is outdated now. I'll be expecting a per GB credit for the precious bandwidth I do not use on a monthly basis. I'm very confident they will do this because even my cell phone provider allows roll over minutes. They're not stupid enough to completely molest customers. They realize it's very obvious to customers that charging for overages, and ignoring under usage, is complete fraud. They pretty much HAD to do it. | |
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| GroovyPhoenx
join:2006-05-22
Gloucester, ON
 ·Rogers Hi-Speed
| Re: Credits for under usage? said by Jeff Z :
They're not stupid enough to completely molest customers. They realize it's very obvious to customers that charging for overages, and ignoring under usage, is complete fraud. They pretty much HAD to do it.
Oh yee of little realisation, all they need to do is and they have done so, just like their little clause for speeds...
UP TO 95GB.
And voila, they can now be "stupid enough to completely molest customers, please bend over and lube up well.
Thanks for using Rogers, where we take everything and give nothing back. | |
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DJ_Kismuth
join:2001-11-25
Chicago, IL | Yikes. Wow I can never move to Canada. But wait, we're stuck with George Bush down here! Ohhh, damn!
I guess these problems aren't as bad as the situation in Iraq. But yes, Canada's ISP's all suck. | |
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anonomois
@comcast.net | Re: Yikes. It could be worse....you could be in rural America with dial-up or satellite internet:o! Thankfully, you or I are not in that situation.. | |
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Calkorean
@q9.net
| Don't equate Ontario ISP's with Canadian ISP's. I moved to Alberta from Ontario and was astonished at the 25Mbit no throttling service offered here. I'm actually surprised at how technologically savvy people are here (Must be the oil money). If you walk into the mall with your PDA, a map of the mall gets automatically loaded on it. The Transit website has a GIS system that tells you what buses/trains to ride with a given address. The escalators at the airport run on motion sensors (slow at first and fast when a person approaches). Probably antiquated technology when comparing to the rest of the world, however better than the rest of the country. | |
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Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL | Why don't they try FAP like Satellite with off peak times... Why don't they try FAP like Satellite with off peak times that are FAP free.
That would be better they makeing pay a per gb fee but make it so you can pay the fee and you never get FAPed | |
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Froggy
@teksavvy.com | Re: Why don't they try FAP like Satellite with off peak times... Very good point and i have suggested the exact same thing on the Canadian internet forums. | |
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yup
@rogers.com | Re: Why don't they try FAP like Satellite with off peak times... I'm sorry I only know the word Fap meaning something else.. what is this fap you mention | |
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studious_student
@uottawa.ca | rogers got tired of all the fapping going on and wanted to force us to find girlfriends by capping our internets  | |
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Matt Brown
@verizon.net | 60 GB that's it? I push 60Gb a day... Comcast used to get angry at me! Now that I'm on my 7.1 MBP/s DSL havent had a problem.. | |
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theoracle
@rogers.com
| Please Sir...Can I have more? People seem to forget the Internet is still just a very young, new technology. Just barely off the ground, and only commercially viable in the last 10 years, it runs on networks that were designed primarily for other technologies.
While the first several years were mostly a battle between software and hardware...each leap-frogging the other every few months, making last month's purchase practically obsolete...and the last few years were all about providing content, the challenge today is bandwidth.
Our consumer appetite for more and more content, is far exceeding ISP's technological capabilities to upgrade their networks. I think I have had this P4 3.00Ghz system running since I had 1.5Mb/s service, 6 years ago. Now I have 18Mb/s service and I'm still using the same PC.
Unfortunately the all-you-can-eat bandwidth buffet, has to undergo some changes while the network technologies and architectures evolve. I guess throttling and caps are going to be a fact of life for a while.
If the new technologies do not get deployed fast enough, usage-based billing will be the next logical step. | |
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Yonsil
join:2008-02-21
Fort Erie, ON | Cheer Up! Guys...Bell and Rogers are doing great favour FOR YOU by throttling your download AND upload.
With this, you don't have to pay as much as before throttling.
Cheer up!
and Save your money! ---brought to you by industry pri*ks | |
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| clarkepm
join:2004-08-20
Denver, CO
| Re: Cheer Up! I was just at a conference thrown by the big Cell companies. After they dug themselves holes by quoting speeds of 200 Mbps over UMTS/HSDPA or whatever dumbass "4G" technology they move too, I decided to ask them why they cap at 5 GB. Talk about backpedaling...
Cell companies and their associated land-line subsidiaries/partners cap because they want to control content and pipe. Once they control both (Cellular really already does) you can bet your ass net neutrality will get thrown out the window - they will traffic shape so thier content hauls ass and everything else is throttled. | |
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