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Comments on news posted 2008-04-01 10:01:15: Comcast isn't too happy that FCC boss Kevin Martin didn't shower the cable company with kisses last week when they announced (via carefully worded press release) they'd be adopting "protocol agnostic" traffic shaping methods by the end of the year. ..

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comcastisgreat

@il.us


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Cabal See Profile

Truth is only a person's perception of reality

In Comcast's mind, only their perception can be truth. Their perception of reality however varies from most of our perceptions and thus we are in disagreement.

Comcast's motto:

“To begin with, our perception of the world is deformed, incomplete. Then our memory is selective. Finally, writing transforms.”


DrModem
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USA
lolwut

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
They got caught with their hands in the cookie jar...

.....just admit already.

The proof is out their and they act like a child.


SGT Hans Schultz

@verizon.net
Deny, deny, deny is their moto.

"I know nothing, I see nothing, and I say nothing!" "Is that packet forging?"


ptrowski
Got Helix?
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Putnam, CT
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·ViaTalk

Too funny...

After their little PR stunt with Bittorrent some called them "forward thinking" etc.

Their letter to the FCC now shows just how "forward thinking" they truly are. They blatantly lied about hindering P2P applications and were caught red handed. To not be able to admit fault is amazing. Hell even my 5 year old can admit fault and say "sorry".

Pathetic.
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alalper
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Philadelphia, PA

reply to moonpuppy
Re: They got caught with their hands in the cookie jar...

said by moonpuppy See Profile :

.....just admit already.

The proof is out their and they act like a child.
It wasn't me, mommy.

nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
pretty dumb

comcast should just keep their mouth shut - the FCC isn't going to do anything about comcast interfering with BT protocol or anything else.

Martin is just talking up the game for congress and the public.

RadioDoc
58ef2c0
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·AT&T Midwest

reply to ptrowski
Re: Too funny...

Recapping...

They targeted BitTorrent, making their customer's experience using the connections they paid for to download all those movies and songs they say you can get more Comcastic! than usual.

Then they lied about forging RST packets, denying they were doing it.

Then they admitted they were forging RST packets.

Then they issued a press release saying they will stop targeting BitTorrent exclusively (aka, they will be "protocol agnostic")

Now they are denying they admitted the forgery, or even denied anything, and in his best Nathan Therm, Cohen says "Comcast has not now ‘admitted’ anything about Comcast’s network management practices that we previously denied."

Is there something in the Philly water? Or was he "Enlightened" by the legal department...
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systems2000
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Comcast Must Die!

Glad I dumped Comcast last year and don't ever see us going back. I tried to show how Comcast monopolizes where ever they supply their product as a single entity and have been consolidating their stranglehold for the last six or seven years.

This guy did a better job. »www.ComcastMustDie.com/


Meh37

@verizon.net
reply to RadioDoc
Re: Too funny...

Well said (though I doubt that a legal department has ever actually enlightened anyone, only obfuscated--which is, I know, exactly what you meant ).

jc100

join:2002-04-10


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reply to DrModem
Re: Truth is only a person's perception of reality

They must have one of Bush's people working there. Spin Doctors are what they are called. Do one thing, and flip it around. Sort of like the 99 reasons we invaded Iraq. Comcast's new slogan will be Stay the Course. Even though we're wrong, we'll try every way to pretend we weren't. Albeit, we try to sell our customers on how we're now consumer friendly, while still continuing to do said practice. WTG Comcast, does that jar of vasoline come with or without a contract?

cornelius785

join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA

I've got an idea...

Let's take the lead of EU of pressing insane fines everyday for non-compliance and sue when they refuse to pay up. Seems like it is working just fine for them, why not try it here?

It may just be me, but are cable internet opperators more willy to mess (caps, anti-bittorrent actions, etc.) with their customer's connection compared to DSL internet operators?


Doctor Four
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said by cornelius785 See Profile :

It may just be me, but are cable internet opperators more willy to mess (caps, anti-bittorrent actions, etc.) with their customer's connection compared to DSL internet operators?
For the most part that appears to be true, with one
major exception: Bell Canada (Sympatico). And in the
States, AT&T has talked about implementing piracy filters,
but hasn't acted on that yet.
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TechieZero
Tools Are Using Me
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Wesley Chapel, FL
 I Am Not Following This...

Is Comcast breaking a SLA or an agreement by doing these things?


Noah Vail
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Lorton, VA
·RoadRunner Cable


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reply to RadioDoc
Pinko Socialist!

said by RadioDoc See Profile :

Recapping...

They targeted BitTorrent,...
Then they lied about forging RST packets,...
Then they admitted they were forging RST packets....
Then they issued a press release saying they will stop targeting BitTorrent exclusively...

Now they are denying they admitted the forgery...
HEY! You can't do that. How can we justify Comcast's deceptive, anti-customer practices, if you keep restating the facts in a clear, undeniable manner?

You uncapitalistic, luddite pig, you.

NV
edit: received grammar lessions
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Idiot finder

@verizon.net

reply to jc100
Re: Truth is only a person's perception of reality

said by jc100 See Profile :

They must have one of Bush's people working there. Spin Doctors are what they are called. Do one thing, and flip it around. Sort of like the 99 reasons we invaded Iraq. Comcast's new slogan will be Stay the Course. Even though we're wrong, we'll try every way to pretend we weren't. Albeit, we try to sell our customers on how we're now consumer friendly, while still continuing to do said practice. WTG Comcast, does that jar of vasoline come with or without a contract?
What an Idiotioc comparison, how many have lost their lives over a forged packet.

deadzoned
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join:2005-04-13
Baton Rouge, LA
·Cox HSI

Dumb

It seems pretty dumb and short-sighted of Comcast to basically call out Martin and the FCC on this. Don't they remember that Martin pretty much despises all things Cable?

The cable Co's haven't gotten any breaks from Martin since he's been the FCC head, what do they think is going to happen if they pick a fight? Dumb move on the part of Comcast as they have basically just sealed their fate concerning future traffic-shaping possibilities. It will more than likely be shut down completely now. (Not that that would be a bad thing!)

jc100

join:2002-04-10
reply to Idiot finder
Re: Truth is only a person's perception of reality

I'm not comparing the war itself as a whole but the rationale. The rationale is the same here than Iraq. Sell the customers or the people on one thing, while continue with the same bad behavior.


aSic
application specific
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Wakulla, FL
clubs:

reply to Idiot finder
said by Idiot finder :

What an Idiotioc comparison, how many have lost their lives over a forged packet.
I had some big guy from jersey show up at my home the other day. Said I sent him a forged packet instead of packet 684943 of Debbie Does Dallas 3.avi which killed his download.

I almost lost my life that day.... because of a forged packet.
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djdanska
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join:2001-04-21
Glen Ellyn, IL
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·RCN CABLE

One lost customer..

Well, because of this mess i am not a comcast customer. When i moved into my new place, i had a choice. Comcast or rcn. (I thought comcast wasn't available at first but was corrected). I picked rcn. I can use bittorrent without a problem. (I don't use bittorrents that often but when i do, i like to be able to use them without a problem.)

So, rcn should be very grateful that i picked them over a major cable provider. Rcn may not be the largest provider but it has been working out very well now. It's just a shame that most people don't have an option on which cable provider they can go with. I'm one of the lucky ones.
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When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
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