odog
Cable Centric Vendor Biased
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join:2001-08-05
Norcross, GA
clubs: | Can't be that hard.... but
that doesn't mean it can't be messed up and end up burning down a house. |
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B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28 | From the "No S___, Sherlock" Department
Well of COURSE.... You mean to say Verizon can seriously claim they didn't see this coming?
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verolom
join:2002-03-23
Eagleville, PA | Clue
Here's in idea, keep the copper loop to power the ONT. |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
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join:2005-06-29
clubs:
 ·QuantumVoice
 ·AT&T Southeast
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| said by verolom  :Here's in idea, keep the copper loop to power the ONT. Could be true but, i dont know what the amp pull is on the ONT, copper might not be big enough(awg wise) to support the amp load for a long time. |
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budice
join:2006-10-18
Huntington Beach, CA | I simply added another UPS
Like folks have mentioned, adding another UPS and plugging the BBU into it extends the life. You hear an alarm when the battery is unplugged from the wall outlet. But returns to normal when added to the UPS. |
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b10010011
Whats a Posting tag?
join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA
·Comcast Formerly ..
2 edits | What's the difference?
The same battery problem exists when you switch to Comcast's Digital Voice or any other cable companies, phone over cable, VOIP, or whatever they are calling it.
Q: What if my electricity goes out? Will I still be able to use my Comcast Digital Voice service?
A: The eMTA (embedded Mulitmedia Terminal Adapter) Comcast supplies with your Comcast Digital Voice service contains a backup battery designed to power the eMTA for several hours of continuous service. The actual length of battery backup time will depend on the amount of time you use the phone to place outgoing calls during a power outage.
»www.comcastphoneoffers.com/1/faq.php#q03 |
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B
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join:2000-10-28 | Except that FiOS isn't "whatever" -- FiOS is POTS.
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to verolom
Re: Clue
Easier said than engineered. |
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Gary A
join:2008-03-02
Odessa, FL
·Embarq
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Not A Big Deal
Verizon Battery Backup Unit |
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NYDude25
join:2007-08-23
Massapequa, NY | FIOS still sounds better...
My cable modem doesn't even have a battery in it  |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
·Verizon FIOS
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
·BroadVoice
| said by NYDude25 :My cable modem doesn't even have a battery in it Thats because it doesnt need one. The two are totally different devices, using totally different technologies.
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b10010011
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join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA
·Comcast Formerly ..
1 edit | reply to B
Re: What's the difference?
said by B :Except that FiOS isn't "whatever" -- FiOS is POTS. -- B Um... I don't think so, POTS is copper.
But that is not my point. This article seemingly implies that the batteries are FIOS's big weak point. I am just stating that the Cable companies phone service has exactly the same weak point because they require a battery backup in the home just like FIOS. |
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
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join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| They could have done it better.
Some sort of standard clip on laptop style battery would have been better. Also maybe .25 a month for replacements sent when the ONT detects the battery will not perform adequately. With shipping back for disposal.
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TheRul
You couldn't think of something?
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join:2007-09-18
Victorville, CA
·Verizon FIOS
| From an unnamed verizon employee
"This one I see as making a mountain out of a mole hill, people will think everything is a hazard. Re-lighting the pilot light on your furnace is a bigger hazard in my eyes  "
I agree with this. Grandma can ask her grandchild to do it.
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B
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join:2000-10-28
| reply to b10010011
Re: What's the difference?
First as far as I know (and I don't) the cable companies replace the batteries and Verizon doesn't.
Second, POTS isn't just copper any more. Just ask anyone who gets FiOS Internet and retains their Verizon POTS service after VZ cut the copper to the house.
The batteries ARE FiOS's weak point vis a vis FiOS's intended role in replacing the existing copper plant. What was once centrally controlled and repaired (power to the POTS system) is now left in unpredictable tatters at the whims of clueless or uninformed homeowners. It shouldn't be that way. VZ should simply take ongoing responsibility for the batteries. End of problem.
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b10010011
Whats a Posting tag?
join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA
·Comcast Formerly ..
| said by B :First as far as I know (and I don't) the cable companies replace the batteries and Verizon doesn't. Yeah, you really think that during a long term power outage Comcast is going to go INSIDE every home (yes their battery backup is inside the home) and replace the batteries for thousands of customers. |
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JimF
join:2003-06-15
Allentown, PA
| All are equal
Whether it turns out to be easy or not, I can assure you that in all of the discussions Verizon had on the subject, no one ever dared to suggest that women (or even older people) might have a harder time of it than men. That would not be politically correct. All people are created equal, and that is that. |
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B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28 | reply to b10010011
Re: What's the difference?
As I said, I don't know. (Though I thought the cableco batteries were typically outside.)
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Mchart
Super Joe
join:2004-01-21
Gurnee, IL
·AT&T Yahoo
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to B
said by B :First as far as I know (and I don't) the cable companies replace the batteries and Verizon doesn't. Second, POTS isn't just copper any more. Just ask anyone who gets FiOS Internet and retains their Verizon POTS service after VZ cut the copper to the house. The batteries ARE FiOS's weak point vis a vis FiOS's intended role in replacing the existing copper plant. What was once centrally controlled and repaired (power to the POTS system) is now left in unpredictable tatters at the whims of clueless or uninformed homeowners. It shouldn't be that way. VZ should simply take ongoing responsibility for the batteries. End of problem. -- B They may still have olde fashioned telephony service, but I wouldn't call it POTS. POTS infers you have analog signalling from the customers phone to a RT or central office. While they may still be using analog signalling within the house to the demark point, in this case the FIOS box; it's DS0 when it hits that box. |
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PhoenixDown
-- Wants FIOS
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join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
clubs: | FIOS wins in a blackout
During the big north east blackout, my cable service went out. I assume any cable provided voip was out too.
FIOS at least has the battery backup and while it may only last a few hours -- its a few hours more than the cable co provides. |
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